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Old 12-27-2004, 01:52 PM
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Infinity Kappa 63.5i 6-1/2" $119.99

Product Description:

* Plus One C.M.M.D. woofer cone
* hi-roll rubber surround allows greater woofer movement
* 1" C.M.M.D. dome tweeter
* 1-1/8" metallic planar EMIT supertweeter
* 2-way external crossovers (18 dB/octave, 3,500 Hz high- and low-pass)
* sensitivity 90 dB
* frequency response 45-22,000 Hz
* recommended power range 2-75 watts RMS
* peak power handling 225 watts
* top-mount depth 2-3/16"
* adapter rings for 6-3/4" applications included

Infinity Perfect 6.1 6-1/2" Component System $349.99

Product Description:

* Kappa Perfect 6.1 - 6-1/2" Component System
* Power Handlng: 400 watts Peak / 100 watts RMS
* Impedance: 3 Ohms
* Deep-anodized aluminum woofer cone for incredible detail and accuracy
* 1" edge-driven aluminum tweeter with rubber surround
* -Mount™ Tweeter Mounting System: for Angled, Flush, or Surface Mounting
* Component crossover: Linqwitz-Riley with 3.5kHz tweeter crossover freqency, and -4 / 0 / +5 dB tweeter level control

Speaker Specifications:

* Speaker Size 6-1/2"
* Design 2-way Component System
* Sensitivity 90dB
* Frequency Response 75Hz - 23kHz
* Peak Power Handling 100 watts
* RMS Power Handling 400 watts
* Impedance 4 ohms
* Top Mount Depth 2-3/4"
* Bottom-mount depth N/A
* Cutout Dimensions 5-1/16"

Infinity Kappa 693.5i 6" x 9" $139.99

Product Description:

* Plus One C.M.M.D. woofer cone is 30% larger than other speakers of this size, ensuring strong bass response
* high-roll rubber surround allows greater woofer movement
* 1" C.M.M.D. dome tweeter
* 1-1/8" metallic planar EMIT supertweeter
* 2-way external crossovers (18 dB/octave, 3,500 Hz high- and low-pass)
* sensitivity 90 dB
* frequency response 35-22,000 Hz
* recommended power range 2-110 watts RMS
* peak power handling 330 watts
* top-mount depth 3-1/4"

JL Audio 10W6v2 $299.99

General Specifications


* RMS Power Range : 400 Watts

RMS: Root Mean Square is a formula that provides a reasonably accurate means of measuring and comparing continuous AC power. The use of this measure is preferred when matching system components, like amplifiers and receivers.
* Impedance: 4 Ohm

Impedance: The totality measured in Ohms of all electrical opposition to current flow: resistance, reactance, capacitance, as well as all mechanical factors inhibiting the completion of energy transfer in a contained system. In practical terms, this means that most Drivers are assigned a certain nominal impedance based on their DC voice coil resistance and mechanical stiffness. For car audio this is usually 4 ohms; for home stereo, 8 ohms is the standard.
* Diameter: 10 Inch

Features


* Nominal Diameter: 10 inches (250 mm)
* Continuous Power Handling: 400 Watts
* Voice Coil: 2.75" diameter, 4-layer, Kapton former
* Available Configurations: Dual 4 ohm only
* Xmax (one-way, linear): 0.60" (15.2 mm)
* Sealed Enclosure Range: 0.50-1.00 cu.ft. (14.0-28.0 liters)
* Ported Enclosure Range: 0.75-1.25 cu.ft. (21.2-35.5 liters)
* VRCT Technology: YES
* W-ConeT Technology: YES
* Elevated Frame Technology: YES
* Floating Cone Attach Technology: YES
* NeckVentT Technology: YES

JL Audio 450/4 (4 channel amp) $549.99

Product Description:

Specifications:

* Channels 1 and 2:
o Rated Power (stereo mode): 150W RMS x 2 @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
o Rated Power (bridged mode): 300W RMS x 1 @ 3 ohm-8 ohm (11V-14.5V)
* Channels 3 and 4:
o Rated Power (stereo mode): 75W RMS x 2 @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
o Rated Power (bridged mode): 150W RMS x 1 @ 3 ohm-8 ohm (11V-14.5V)
* THD at Rated Power: <0.03% @ 4 ohm
* S/N Ratio*: >108.5 dB below rated power
* Frequency Response: 5 Hz-30 KHz (+0, -1dB)
* Damping Factor: >200 @ 4 ohm per ch./50 Hz
* Input Range: switchable from 200mV-2V RMS to 800mV-8V RMS
Dimensions: 13.4"L x 9.25"W x 2.36"H

Features:

* Differential-Balanced Input Topology: (2 pairs of inputs)
* Channels 1 and 2 Crossover:
o Fully-variable (50 Hz-5 KHz), selectable-slope LP or HP (12 or 24 dB per octave)
* Channels 3 and 4 Crossover:
o Fully-variable (50 Hz-5 KHz), selectable-slope LP or HP (12 or 24 dB per octave)
* Preamp Output: 2-channel (Pass-through with selectable input sourcing)
* Bass EQ: +6 dB (variable boost up to +15 dB with Remote Bass Option)
* Infrasonic Filter (Channels 1&2 only): defeatable 24dB/octave at 30 Hz
* Speaker output connections: accept up to 8ga. wire
* +12V and Ground connections: accept up to 4ga. Wire

Amplifier Specifications:

* Number of Channels 4
* RMS Power (4 ohms) Ch. 1&2: 150W x 2; Ch 3&4: 75W x 2
* RMS Power (2 ohms) Ch. 1&2: 150W x 2; Ch 3&4: 75W x 2
* RMS Power (1 ohm) (at 1.5 ohms) Ch. 1&2: 150W x 2; Ch 3&4: 75W x 2
* Bridged RMS Power Ch. 1&2: 300W x 1; Ch 3&4: 150W x 1
* Peak Power Output 900 watts approx.
* Min. Impedance Unbridged 1.5 ohms
* Min. Impedance Bridged 1.5 ohms
* THD @ Rated RMS Power 0.03%
* Speaker Level Inputs No
* Amp Preamp Outputs Yes - 1 pair
* Built-in Crossover HP/LP (50 - 500Hz)
* Bass Boost Bass EQ (on/off)
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio 108.5 dB
* Fan Cooled N/A
* Fuse Rating 60A


Infinity 610a Reference Series (monoamp for sub) $249.99

Product Description:

* Infinity reference series 610a car audio subwoofer amplifier
* RMS power rating: 456 watts x 1 at 4 ohms / 657 watts x 1 at 2 ohms
* Variable low-pass filter (32-320 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
* Variable Bass EQ (0-12 dB @ 50 Hz)
* Dynamic Bass Optimization circuit
* Optional wired level control
* Preamp outputs
* 12"L x 15" W x 2-11/16"H
* Fuse rating: 30A x 2

Amplifier Specifications:

* Number of Channels 1 - Mono
* RMS Power (4 ohms) 456 watts x 1 chan.
* RMS Power (2 ohms) 657 watts x 1 chan.
* RMS Power (1 ohm) Not Stable
* Bridged RMS Power Not Bridgeable
* Peak Power Output 761 watts
* Min. Impedance Unbridged 2 ohms
* Min. Impedance Bridged Not Bridgeable
* THD @ Rated RMS Power 1.0 %
* Speaker Level Inputs No
* Amp Preamp Outputs Yes - 1 Pair
* Built-in Crossover LP (32-320Hz)
* Bass Boost Variable bass boost
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio 70dB
* Fan Cooled No
* Fuse Rating 30A x 2

This is what I am looking at. I am a big complete nub to this stuff. I am wondering if this is a good set up and if they go together well. I want something that has good hi's, and ok mid's (hopefully the woofer can compensate). I really like to listen to hiphop, techno, classical and rock. What I want is crisp and accurate music, with a nice punchyness to the bass. So please, someone help me. Thanks.

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Farad capacitors...
How many do I need? One for each amp? How many watts for the farad capacitor(s)?

Fuses
Do I need some sort of a fuse box just incase a power surge occurs and shorts out my system? What would I get? Voltage/wattage rating? Where would I get it?
 

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Old 12-28-2004, 11:27 AM
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Good choice on JL sub and amp. I would skip Infinity speakers up front and go with something like JL or Diamond audio.

You know what with all the money you're spending I would do something else. This is what I suggest.

Fronts get JL ZR series 6.5" components. Use JL 300/2 to drive them. Don't worry about rears don't really need them.
For sub stick with the JL 10W6 and use a JL 500/1 to power it.

You will spend about the same on the system I suggested compared to the system you put together, But this one should sound better. Also less complexity to put the system together. And if you really want to run rears, run them off the HU. But with the fronts and amp I suggested you should be able to get plenty of clean volume.
 
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:29 AM
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Caps I would get at least a 1 farad cap for your system.

Accessories. You'll need a inline fuse under hood, you'll need a fused distribution block, and a ground distribution block. You will need about 17 ft of at least 4 ga power and ground wire and about 5 feet of 8 ga power and ground wire
 
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:55 AM
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I can't seem to find the ZR series anywhere... is it even out yet? Where can I find it?

Also, where can I find a website that will sell me all these accessories?
 

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Yeah go to the JL webpage, they are there. www.jlaudio.com

Look under the evolution button.
 
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:09 PM
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But I can't find it anywhere else to buy it. I did a search for it on the web, ebay'ed it and nothing came up. Unless I have to buy it direct from them.
 
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Its a newer product so you're going to have to go to a store to get it. And since its a highend JL product you're not going to have an easy time finding it on ebay. JL has a pretty strict internet purchasing policy I believe. Plus you'll want to listen to the speakers so go look for them at a store. If you can't find them the XR series is a good alternative too.
 
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except for the infinity stuff it looks good. i own some kappa 60.5cs components and they have extremely poor midbass.. i will not own any of their speakers again.
 
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I have never been a fan of Infinity. Used to manage an home and car audio store and a Infinity sales person brought us a set of home speakers, they were like $1800/pair. We hooked them up to audition and the speakers sounded like crap. Way too boomy lack of midrange, lack of volume, distortion at slightly high volume and on and on. So needless to say we never picked up the line. Very poor showing.
 
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Ok thanks. So what other brands would you guys recommend?


The search continues for better speakers!
 
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Diamond audio, MB Quart(personally they're too bright for me), Canton, Morel, Dynaudio.
 
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i wish i could make a good suggestion.. im shopping for speakers myself. i understand that focals are very good, but after a couple years of the infinities, i really really want good midbass im looking into adire audio kodas now. there are a couple problems though: 1. im not sure if adire's kodas are hype and cant listen to them. 2. adire is discontinuing them.

at a lower price range, i heard that RE Audio RE components are good. they only cost $160. I'm considering them. I'm still considering Focal 165V2s as well. I want Focal 165K2P or 165Ws but both of those are expensive ($400-500 range) and im unsure if i want to spend that much on components yet.
 
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Focal is ok, for me they are way too mechanical sounding. Adire is very good too.
 
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What about Alpine Type R or Type S? I've been shopping too. Anyone have experience with those?
 
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It really comes down to personal preference. For me I don't like my tweeters to be too bright. And I want good midbass, but some of that has to do with how you situate the midbass driver.
 


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