iPad mini in dash of G35
#31
I actually considered (am still considering) doing a Nexus 7 install. The way I have it planned out, most (If not all) of the problems with the Ipad install will be moot.
I'm pretty tech savvy (As well as being in 3rd year engineering) I think I can work it out. The way I have it planned out the tablet would be removable, have offline turn-by-turn GPS (no need for internet connection), can connect to my phone, crossover boosts audio signal as well as any equalizer issues. Matte screen protector removes glare, custom widgets makes it usable while driving.
Only two things are holding me back, one is I gotta figure out how to utilize steering controls with the tablet (I know of one way but it's a PITA to implement), other is the $300 JDM double din cost. Other than my total parts list is around $200 (Not including the tablet which I already have).
I'm pretty tech savvy (As well as being in 3rd year engineering) I think I can work it out. The way I have it planned out the tablet would be removable, have offline turn-by-turn GPS (no need for internet connection), can connect to my phone, crossover boosts audio signal as well as any equalizer issues. Matte screen protector removes glare, custom widgets makes it usable while driving.
Only two things are holding me back, one is I gotta figure out how to utilize steering controls with the tablet (I know of one way but it's a PITA to implement), other is the $300 JDM double din cost. Other than my total parts list is around $200 (Not including the tablet which I already have).
That'll knock it down to about $150 instead of $300 for trim.
Assuming you already have the iPad mini, you're still going to need some sort of amplifier. If you have the bose amp, you can use the PAC ROEM-NIS2 as an intermediary between the auxiliary jack and the bose amp and to give you the switched/constant power connections easily without chopping up the factory wiring. If you don't have the bose system, you'll just need a 4-channel amplifier to drive the factory speakers.
Steering wheel controls... to avoid dealing with the lightning connector I'd go with jacking into the headphone remote signal. Just set up a circuit that triggers the right signal on the headphone jack when it detects the correct voltage from the two steering wheel remote wires A/B: 0v - mode/power, 1.7v seek up/down, 3.3v volume up/down and 5v - nothing pressed).
Here's the problem though. After all that, you could just mount your smartphone somewhere visible and accessible, have access to all the same streaming audio options, map options, and whatever else you want, and by just installing a radio or auxiliary input adapter with A2DP bluetooth audio streaming, you get much of the same effect for a TON less asspain, particularly where the steering wheel control integration is concerned.
#32
You an get the JDM climate controls and just chop up your original trim, like is done to keep the rosewood:
That'll knock it down to about $150 instead of $300 for trim.
Assuming you already have the iPad mini, you're still going to need some sort of amplifier. If you have the bose amp, you can use the PAC ROEM-NIS2 as an intermediary between the auxiliary jack and the bose amp and to give you the switched/constant power connections easily without chopping up the factory wiring. If you don't have the bose system, you'll just need a 4-channel amplifier to drive the factory speakers.
Steering wheel controls... to avoid dealing with the lightning connector I'd go with jacking into the headphone remote signal. Just set up a circuit that triggers the right signal on the headphone jack when it detects the correct voltage from the two steering wheel remote wires A/B: 0v - mode/power, 1.7v seek up/down, 3.3v volume up/down and 5v - nothing pressed).
Here's the problem though. After all that, you could just mount your smartphone somewhere visible and accessible, have access to all the same streaming audio options, map options, and whatever else you want, and by just installing a radio or auxiliary input adapter with A2DP bluetooth audio streaming, you get much of the same effect for a TON less asspain, particularly where the steering wheel control integration is concerned.
That'll knock it down to about $150 instead of $300 for trim.
Assuming you already have the iPad mini, you're still going to need some sort of amplifier. If you have the bose amp, you can use the PAC ROEM-NIS2 as an intermediary between the auxiliary jack and the bose amp and to give you the switched/constant power connections easily without chopping up the factory wiring. If you don't have the bose system, you'll just need a 4-channel amplifier to drive the factory speakers.
Steering wheel controls... to avoid dealing with the lightning connector I'd go with jacking into the headphone remote signal. Just set up a circuit that triggers the right signal on the headphone jack when it detects the correct voltage from the two steering wheel remote wires A/B: 0v - mode/power, 1.7v seek up/down, 3.3v volume up/down and 5v - nothing pressed).
Here's the problem though. After all that, you could just mount your smartphone somewhere visible and accessible, have access to all the same streaming audio options, map options, and whatever else you want, and by just installing a radio or auxiliary input adapter with A2DP bluetooth audio streaming, you get much of the same effect for a TON less asspain, particularly where the steering wheel control integration is concerned.
For skipping songs I actually had a more complicated method in mind, My tablet (Nexus 7) Runs on android which allows for external hardware interfacing, meaning I could essentially use the steering controls and connect them to the USB and write a program for it to skip songs(Problem with this is, it makes my tablet not removable). However your method is much simpler (I must admit I overlooked it since typically the headphones I buy don't have controls on them) but I have to look into whether or not those same voltage signals can't be sent over the pogo pins which the dock uses. I don't see why it wouldn't but you never know.
I'll probably buy a spare trim piece and cut it up to see how it turns out (I have a feeling the sharp edges from the cuts will make it look cheap). If it all goes well I might consider investing into the project otherwise I'll just cut my losses and invest in a double din kit and go with an available double din
#33
As far as the amp is concerned I do have a bose amp which means I can use the PAC ROEM, so that won't be a major issue (Plus I have a basic 2 channel amp laying around from a previous project, if I needed it).
For skipping songs I actually had a more complicated method in mind, My tablet (Nexus 7) Runs on android which allows for external hardware interfacing, meaning I could essentially use the steering controls and connect them to the USB and write a program for it to skip songs(Problem with this is, it makes my tablet not removable). However your method is much simpler (I must admit I overlooked it since typically the headphones I buy don't have controls on them) but I have to look into whether or not those same voltage signals can't be sent over the pogo pins which the dock uses. I don't see why it wouldn't but you never know.
I'll probably buy a spare trim piece and cut it up to see how it turns out (I have a feeling the sharp edges from the cuts will make it look cheap). If it all goes well I might consider investing into the project otherwise I'll just cut my losses and invest in a double din kit and go with an available double din
For skipping songs I actually had a more complicated method in mind, My tablet (Nexus 7) Runs on android which allows for external hardware interfacing, meaning I could essentially use the steering controls and connect them to the USB and write a program for it to skip songs(Problem with this is, it makes my tablet not removable). However your method is much simpler (I must admit I overlooked it since typically the headphones I buy don't have controls on them) but I have to look into whether or not those same voltage signals can't be sent over the pogo pins which the dock uses. I don't see why it wouldn't but you never know.
I'll probably buy a spare trim piece and cut it up to see how it turns out (I have a feeling the sharp edges from the cuts will make it look cheap). If it all goes well I might consider investing into the project otherwise I'll just cut my losses and invest in a double din kit and go with an available double din
For the trim piece, I believe you shouldn't have any problems with cutting if you have any skills with a vector-based graphics program. Most trophy shops that do laser engraving can cut through it with computer precision to the opening you want. The edges will be absolutely smooth. I've got a piece of ABS plastic that I had them cut an opening for my phone that I will be mounting in place of the factory nav screen one of these days. It's pretty simple, just design some 2D line-art of the opening, take it to the shop and make sure they do it nice and centered on the part.
You might actually have a much easier time if you just mount a small single-din radio with AVRCP and A2DP. They're available for well under $100 and would give you steering wheel controls without wiring to the nexus7.
#34
great install OP..another member did a similar install with android tablet.
https://g35driver.com/forums/car-pc/...ouble-din.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/car-pc/...ouble-din.html
#36
I really wish that Pandora and other apps would specifically make a car mode, with high visibility fonts and big, chunky touch areas.
#37
#38
I would like to do this with a nexus 7, could anyone help me out with a list of parts? Should i use a smaller radio in the ash tray like they did in the video? or should I get rid of the radio head all together. If i get rid of the radio head could I keep my steering wheel controls?
With the nexus 7, I'd add some sort of dock that uses the POGO pins on the side so you get charging while still making it easily removable.
Use a cheap single din bluetooth radio with both A2DP (audio streaming) and AVRCP (audio/video remote control). You'll need the usual wiring harness/adapter, antenna adapter and steering wheel adapter as any double din install to connect it to the factory speakers and power. If you're going for a stealth install, leaving the trim radio in place, you won't need the trim kit, but you'll have to get creative in placing the radio somewhere you can see the display.
You'll need a charging method, so hard-wire in a cigarette lighter socket USB charger behind the dash that puts out enough energy to keep your tablet charged, connect that to the dock behind the center console stack.
So short list:
Tablet
Tablet dock
Cigarette lighter-to-USB charger
Radio
Antenna adapter
PAC ROEM-NIS2 (factory bose audio) or Metra 70-7550 (base audio)
Metra ASWC-1
JDM climate controls -OR- extending the wires to the new radio and finding a creative location for the new radio so the old radio can stay and power the OEM climate controls
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#39
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Steering wheel controls aren't going to control the tablet without some serious magic in wiring without a radio. With a radio installed, the bluetooth AVRCP protocol can control the skip/pause functions on the tablet. With the nexus 7, I'd add some sort of dock that uses the POGO pins on the side so you get charging while still making it easily removable. Use a cheap single din bluetooth radio with both A2DP (audio streaming) and AVRCP (audio/video remote control). You'll need the usual wiring harness/adapter, antenna adapter and steering wheel adapter as any double din install to connect it to the factory speakers and power. If you're going for a stealth install, leaving the trim radio in place, you won't need the trim kit, but you'll have to get creative in placing the radio somewhere you can see the display. You'll need a charging method, so hard-wire in a cigarette lighter socket USB charger behind the dash that puts out enough energy to keep your tablet charged, connect that to the dock behind the center console stack. So short list: Tablet Tablet dock Cigarette lighter-to-USB charger Radio Antenna adapter PAC ROEM-NIS2 (factory bose audio) or Metra 70-7550 (base audio) Metra ASWC-1 JDM climate controls -OR- extending the wires to the new radio and finding a creative location for the new radio so the old radio can stay and power the OEM climate controls
#43
JDM climate controls -OR- extending the wires to the new radio and finding a creative location for the new radio so the old radio can stay and power the OEM climate controls
Thanks for all your help, I have pretty much everything I'm going to need in my amazon cart.
metra kit for reference:
Amazon.com: Metra 99-7604 Single/Double DIN Installation Kit for 2003-2004 Infiniti G35: Car Electronics
EDIT: I'm also looking into using wireless charging because the nexus 2013 doens't have pogo pins. Any specific dock you would recommend? if not thats alright i wil try to do something different so i can use wireless charging.
Last edited by AeonSaber; 04-13-2014 at 04:51 PM.
#44
Thanks for all your help, I have pretty much everything I'm going to need in my amazon cart.
metra kit for reference: Amazon.com: Metra 99-7604 Single/Double DIN Installation Kit for 2003-2004 Infiniti G35: Car Electronics
EDIT: I'm also looking into using wireless charging because the nexus 2013 doens't have pogo pins. Any specific dock you would recommend? if not thats alright i wil try to do something different so i can use wireless charging.
metra kit for reference: Amazon.com: Metra 99-7604 Single/Double DIN Installation Kit for 2003-2004 Infiniti G35: Car Electronics
EDIT: I'm also looking into using wireless charging because the nexus 2013 doens't have pogo pins. Any specific dock you would recommend? if not thats alright i wil try to do something different so i can use wireless charging.
If you get a Qi-compatible charger that charges at a decent rate, remove the actual charging plate from it and just mount it behind a thin piece of ABS plastic in the right spot, you can do it that way. Otherwise, you may need to go with the slightly less cool (but less heat generating and cheaper) method of a USB charging plug.
#45
Finished! Overall it went well. The only issue I had and still have is the steering wheel controls are not all working correctly. I will have to manually set them to what they are suppose to do.
Thanks again for all your help! If you have any pointers on how to make it better let me know, I will be getting some touch up paint this weekend to fix some of the marks I made while installing it.
Also I did this all with a drill so dont make fun of the bad plastic cuts to much lol
Thanks again for all your help! If you have any pointers on how to make it better let me know, I will be getting some touch up paint this weekend to fix some of the marks I made while installing it.
Also I did this all with a drill so dont make fun of the bad plastic cuts to much lol
Last edited by AeonSaber; 04-18-2014 at 12:08 AM.