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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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anyone with stock navi install a new headunit!?

has anyone that has the existing stock navigation done the double din kit and installed a new headunit?!

do you still get sound from your navigation, going thru your new headunit? how does this work??
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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Yes. I have done this.

I used a seperate speaker, which I mounted below my headunit, to produce the sound from the nav. When the nav prompts, the deck mutes and the sound is played through the speaker.

Check out my link below to see pics.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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Here is a post that might help. This isn't my post, but it should help you out.

here is the post on my350z.com

Linking the factory nav system to a new head unit...
For those of you trying to install a new head unit in your Z, but keep the existing factory navigation system, and keep the voice, the info below will work ! THis is what I did, and it works great, just like the factory navigation system does. Keep in mind that you will have to have a Mute capable head unit, and you will have to wire a seperate speaker for the nav voice. A small price to pay for the much better sound you will get out of an aftermarket head unit.

Anyways, here is what I did:

The output of the NAV system is about 7.5-9 volts. This is not enough voltage to trip a standard 12 volt (30A) relay. So, what I did was this. You have to setup a 2 stage system, composed of a transistor and 12v relay, to switch the mute circuit on a new head unit.

Parts I used:
1. Potter and Brumfield 12V Relay (Bosch will work too)
2. TIP31 high power NPN Transistor (Radio shack sells it)
3. Various length wires and crimp-type connectors
4. 1 kohm resistor (1/4 watt)

NAVI-SYSTEM WIRE MAP:
Mute wire from NAVI control to head unit - R/B
NAVI earth ground - B/P
NAVI Voice input + L/B
NAVI Voice input - W/B

Transistor circuit:
All transistors consist of a Base (B), Collector (C), and an Emitter (E). The pacakge will tell you, if you buy it from ratshack, or look online for a datasheet for your transistor. THis circuit will work for an NPN only. A pnp transistor will be wired differnetly, so make sure you get the proper parts !

1. Wire Mute (R/B) from NAVI control to the transistor Base (B) through a 1kohm resistor (Limits the current so you don't fry the TIP31).
2. Wire the Emitter (E) to vehicle ground
3. Wire the collector (C) to postion 85 on 12V relay

Relay CIrcuit:
1. From 3 above, wire the output of the collector to position 85 of a 12v relay.
2. Wire postion 86 to 12v switched by the ignition (only on when key is on)
3. Wire postion 30 of the 12v relay to vehicle ground
4. Wire positon 87 of the 12v relay to mute input on the new head unit.
5. Position 87a is not connected

Here's what happens:
When the voice control turns on for the navi system, it send the R/B wire high (7.5 volts). This voltage triggers the transistor to open up, and essentially provide ground to the relay. Once the relay is grounded, the relay is energized, and switches the constant ground (suppleid by terminal 30) to position 87, and supplies a ground signal output from the 12v relay. This ground signal MUTES your new head unit. THat's all...simple circuit, great results !

Don't forget that you will have to add a seperate speaker for navi voice under your seat, and run the 2 voice output wires from the navi control to this speaker. If you mount it under the driver's seat, you may have to turn the volume up slightly to hear it...

Good luck, and I hope this helps those who are adding aftermarket headunits to a Z with factory navigation...
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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thanks audioman, its not for me tho... other people on the forum wanna know...

thanks again, big help!
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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audioman, did you do the install yourself or from a shop? if a shop, which shop did you go to? Thanks in advance man! Thinking of doin this, but i'd like a shop that's experienced first
thanks again!
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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holy moley thats alot of work..haha damn i may have to put this one off for a while
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:11 AM
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Hey guys,

I didn't do it myself. I don't currently have the tools, nor the time, to attempt something like this. College is time consuming.

With that said, I had this done in La Cresenta, CA. The name of the shop is Audio Advice. The installer/owner of the shop is Devin. He is excellent. Tell him Shaam (pronounced like Sean, but with an M) with the black G35 sent you. I'm positive he remembers my car since I still go there to get some things done from time to time. He'll know what you are talking about after you mention my car. I remember he spent a lot of time figuring out how to make it work. He figured it out though. Great installer.

His number is (818)248-4663
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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holy moley thats alot of work..haha damn i may have to put this one off for a while
It really isn't if you actually do it...but then again (this is comin from an electrical engineer )
 
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