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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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sirius to xm

hey my car came preinstalled with sirius radio
and honesty sirius suck qulity was poor and most of the stations sucked too

i want xm but i dont know how i can get it to work on my factory satelite reciever system

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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The sat tuner can be switched out. I doubt if the sirius antenna will work with the XM tuner.

You can still try though, if not you will have to buy another antenna too.

Might be more of a hassle than its worth. I would just stay with sirius.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ebuy929
hey my car came preinstalled with sirius radio
and honesty sirius suck qulity was poor and most of the stations sucked too

i want xm but i dont know how i can get it to work on my factory satelite reciever system

help
It is a fairly easy switch, as long as don't mind paying the money for the new receiver and antenna.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Assuming that it would fit in my 05, I'd consider buying the reciever off of you if you decide to switch.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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My friends work at a stereo shop and they always push towards Sirius because they have sooooooooooo many people come back with XM complaining about it cutting out. Sirius is supposed to have better reception. I don't think switching out will solve your problem, only worsen it. Save your money.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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My friends work at a stereo shop and they always push towards Sirius because they have sooooooooooo many people come back with XM complaining about it cutting out. Sirius is supposed to have better reception. I don't think switching out will solve your problem, only worsen it. Save your money.
I have sirius and it drops signal everytime I go under an overpass - very annoying. Whats even more annoying is that it drops signal when driving under trees!!! Sirius says they have 3 satellites and I think XM has only two. Sirius also says they have better/more repeaters/amplifiers. Switching to XM might be worse where drop-outs are concerned. If station variety/choices is what you are concerned about, then make the move.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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I would love to switch w/you

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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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I think this is a case of "grass is greener on the other side"

Sirius does have more satellites but they are not all operating 24 hours a day.

XM has two dedicated satellites operating 24/7

Also if you have a factory installed antenna, it will be difficult to remove since its connected to the frame of the car.

So you might have 2 antennas on the outside of your car...thats the main reason I stayed with XM after switching out my HU.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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XM has three current geosynchronous satellites, "Rock", "Roll", and "Rhythm". "Blues" is being launched later this year. XM also has more signal repeaters on the ground. My signal's only cut out once, and that was going through the Eisenhower tunnel. Other than that, never dropped. Sirius is still debating whether to drop the $50M to launch a new satellite, or invest it in signal repeaters.

XM's system is such that if your reception sucks now, it'll still suck tomorrow, but wait a few months, and it'll be fine when they throw a new satellite up or increase repeaters in your area. Sirius' setup is such that if your signal sucks, just wait for the repositioning of a satellite. The upside is that they cover more ground with the satellite and not repeaters, the downside is that the signal is not consistant.

I've driven from Indy to Vegas and never lost the XM signal, save those 30 seconds in the Eisenhower.

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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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A lot of articles I have read state the following...

XM utilizes two high-power HS 702 satellites built by Hughes Space & Communications Inc. The XM satellites will be positioned in geostationary orbits at 85 degrees West Longitude and 115 degrees West Longitude to deliver clear contiguous transmission across the continental U.S

Sirirus utilizes three satellites in inclined elliptical orbits rather than geostationary orbits over the equator. The elliptical orbit places the satellite about 16 hours a day north of the equator with two satellites over the U.S. at all times. The elliptical orbits enable the satellites to broadcast from a higher angle than geostationary satellites.

For reception in urban areas, where satellite reception may be obstructed, both Sirius and XM will use terrestrial repeaters to ensure continuous reception.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlackG35
A lot of articles I have read state the following...

XM utilizes two high-power HS 702 satellites built by Hughes Space & Communications Inc. The XM satellites will be positioned in geostationary orbits at 85 degrees West Longitude and 115 degrees West Longitude to deliver clear contiguous transmission across the continental U.S

Sirirus utilizes three satellites in inclined elliptical orbits rather than geostationary orbits over the equator. The elliptical orbit places the satellite about 16 hours a day north of the equator with two satellites over the U.S. at all times. The elliptical orbits enable the satellites to broadcast from a higher angle than geostationary satellites.

For reception in urban areas, where satellite reception may be obstructed, both Sirius and XM will use terrestrial repeaters to ensure continuous reception.
FYI, XM has three sats up in the air right now, but only two are powered up. (So yeah technically still only two) Two over the East coast, One over the West coast. XM is in process of moving the older sat over to the West coast where it will transmit at half power, along with the other West coast Sat at half power. The East coast Sat will go to full power. This is being done because of power problems. The Sat cost is being picked up by insurance. The 4th sat will be launched when they deem it neccessary.

Never had an XM related drop out problem, although I have had Clarion/Infiniti receiver problems. Since Grubbs exchanged my old receiver, I have not had any problems.
 

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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by socalg35
FYI, XM has three sats up in the air right now, but only two are powered up. (So yeah technically still only two) Two over the East coast, One over the West coast. XM is in process of moving the older sat over to the West coast where it will transmit at half power, along with the other West coast Sat at half power. The East coast Sat will go to full power. This is being done because of power problems. The Sat cost is being picked up by insurance. The 4th sat will be launched when they deem it neccessary.

Never had an XM related drop out problem, although I have had Clarion/Infiniti receiver problems. Since Grubbs exchanged my old receiver, I have not had any problems.
Oh ok, well thats good news for us XM users. Where did you get that info from?

According to XM's own website they only have two, and dont say anything about extra satellites.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Check their press releases, I'm sure it's mentioned there. I picked up the info from papers reiterating a release.

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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/scre...005_03_01.html
 
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Thanks GeoBau, I found it....

They have 3 in orbit right now and they are currently building #4 and #5.

Construction of XM-5 will be completed in 2007. XM-5 is intended as a ground spare for XM's in-orbit fleet. Boeing Satellite Systems has built XM's three in-orbit satellites (launched by Sea Launch). Boeing also is completing the construction of XM-4, which will be available for launch in 2006.
 
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