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Old 08-04-2005, 03:10 AM
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ECLIPSE AVN2454 or PIONEER AVIC D-1

Ok, these are both pretty similar units to me. They have touchscreens, navi, double cd slots. I know the Eclipse plays movie dvd's while the pioneer does not. And I also know the Eclipse spits 50 watts to the speakers while the pioneer is 30 watts, so the Eclipse has a better sound capability, no?
All in all, they seem to be similarly priced, have similar functions, both are good brands. Is there anything else I'm missing??

SO WHICH ONE IS BETTER??!!!!! WHY?!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
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Both units put out 50 watts, If you use an amp the Pioneer actually has higher pre-outs...

Eclipse 0.8v VS Pioneer 2.0v

The AVIC-D1 will have a more updated DVD map too. If you want eclipse, buy the AVN5435 instead....
 
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:58 AM
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damn, I didnt realize the pre out voltages were so low on both those units. For $1000, they should be up at 4.0v

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Old 08-04-2005, 08:34 PM
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Ok, so whats the difference between the pioneer avic d-1 and the eclipse 5435
Is one better than the other?
 
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:02 PM
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I've never had any experience with either unit, anyone who owns either of these could let me know how happy they are with them?

Thanks guys!
 
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:43 AM
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AVIC does route guidance with input from XM traffic.. so when you say fastest route, it calculates the fastest route AT THAT TIME. That alone is why I've been drooling for this thing.

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differences aside from the obvious between the two would be the Eclipse offering 5V/55Ohm preouts,faster updating,faster/more sensitive response on the touchscreen,THREE year warranty,theft coverage,etc..
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:11 AM
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My opinion....Eclipse all the way. I had the Av8022 in my old car...best sound quality esp with the low 55 ohm output. I dont know why Eclipse dropped their voltage output on their higher end units though...that sux.
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 10:57 AM
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I did a lot of research on these units and I didn't find any noticeable difference in touchscreen sensitivity...

About the unit being faster updating, I'm not sure since I didn't drive around with both units, but I did find this the AVN5435 user manual...

1. When MP3 is being played, navigation operation will become slower. This is not
a malfunction of the system.
The Eclipse unit also only supports mp3's encoded up to 128kbps...

AVIC-D1 has a better screen with a resolution of 336,960 pixels and AVN5435 has a screen resolution of 280,800 pixels.

The Eclipse 5435 also can't search by category...such as looking for the nearest Italian restaurant.
 

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Old 08-06-2005, 09:30 PM
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can you mod the D1 to play dvds? im after that option and really wanna get the d1
 
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fyi, there is no way to bypass the parking brake sensor for the D1. Found this out after installing it on my brothers car. If the unit detects that your car is moving, it will give you a parking brake error and disable all navi functions.
 
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I just got the Pioneer D1 for my GF's Tc and we loved it over the weekend the route guidance and voice command were very accurate and made our weekend much better... The sound was much better than the stock system the only thing is that you need an extra DVD player to play dvds..
 
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sounds no good for me, which dvd/nav player has as good a resolution screen as the d1
 
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