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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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It's not a stereotype, it's accurate advice. People get reptuations, companies do too.

If Tweeter didn't want to have people talking crap about their installers/installs, they should have done better work. You don't get away with doing shotty work and then say "well, you probably just got a crappy installer at Tweeter." IT'S STILL TWEETER! You didn't get your installation from "Joe" in the car shop at Tweeter. You got your work done by Tweeter.

I have heard MANY negative things about CC, BestBuy and Tweeter. I, personally, have had bad experience talking to installers and sales reps at all three, most recently Tweeter. And now a Tweeter sales rep calls me at LEAST once every other week to see how I'm doing and see if there is anything they can install for me.... when they didn't know what they were talking about in the first place, and tried to pull Eliteist bullsh*t with me.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by amthar
It's not a stereotype, it's accurate advice. People get reptuations, companies do too.

If Tweeter didn't want to have people talking crap about their installers/installs, they should have done better work. You don't get away with doing shotty work and then say "well, you probably just got a crappy installer at Tweeter." IT'S STILL TWEETER! You didn't get your installation from "Joe" in the car shop at Tweeter. You got your work done by Tweeter.

I have heard MANY negative things about CC, BestBuy and Tweeter. I, personally, have had bad experience talking to installers and sales reps at all three, most recently Tweeter. And now a Tweeter sales rep calls me at LEAST once every other week to see how I'm doing and see if there is anything they can install for me.... when they didn't know what they were talking about in the first place, and tried to pull Eliteist bullsh*t with me.
dude go look at my install every comment from people on this forum was clean! My friends at the tweeter i got have told me about other tweeters but specifically about the ones down in florida. Their thing is "get it in, get it out, and worry about it later". They basically throw it all togerther and if it holds up in the car, great. If not, then worry about it when it breaks. I was pretty shocked when I heard that but I guess in places like florida where modding cars is really popular these franchises dont have the time to take care of everyones car. And no im not for that, im very against it, but im just saying why not meet the installers before they do the work on your car. They might even know what their doing!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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im pretty sure the big companies will do much better than the small ones. the big-ones live up to their reputation rather than the small ones. Small-stores will limit their budgets on installers and usually, most cases..they are not as professional as the ones in the known co.(such as tweeters/cc/etc..)
It's about who to take it to and the right installer.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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I'm getting pretty much the exact same things installed. 2 amps, components, and a sub in 4080 box. I already have the wiring kits and I was thinking about either going to Sound Advice in Mission Viejo or Circuit City on Jamboree to get it installed. Not sure if I want to do sound deadening though. Do you guys think it's necessary in our cars?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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i agree w/ you G35blk, i am an installer at Best Buy here in albuquerque. I think that we do have a reputation to live up to. Its not fair for people to talk bad when they have had one bad experience. We have 750 stores, granted they all dont do great work, but a majority of them do. I have customers that drive 4-5 hours to come see me, even though there are other Best Buys in their area. The problem most of the time is not the installer but the customers. Most customers come into my shop and want a deck and speakers, but they dont want to pay for install. They want new wires run but wont pay. The G35 community is a little different, most of us are willing to pay for quality, we did when we purchased out Gs. Another thing is, if something does get messed up with someones car, big companies will get it fixed for you becasue they have the money and dont want to lose business. If you have a bad experience, you tell your friends, they tell theirs, so on. My advice is to find a REPUTABLE installer/shop. If they are reputable you can trust them no matter if they are a big box shop or small mom and pop operation. just make sure they are atleast MECP certified.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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achen- on our cars, it is a necessity, even if it stock, imo.
 

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cmayer
Its not fair for people to talk bad when they have had one bad experience
Sometimes that's all you get, one chance, one bad experience. If I have a bad experience somewhere, there is a very good chance I won't be giving that place my business any further. There are too many choices, in whatever market you are talking about, to give business to a company that does not serve you well.

I have customers that drive 4-5 hours to come see me, even though there are other Best Buys in their area.
This proves my point. They are coming to see YOU and want YOU to do the install, because they do not trust BEST BUY to do it properly. they trust you, not Best Buy, which is why they bypass others and drive 4-5 hours to come to you.

Another thing is, if something does get messed up with someones car, big companies will get it fixed for you becasue they have the money and dont want to lose business. If you have a bad experience, you tell your friends, they tell theirs, so on.
I don't blindly place my trust in a "big box shop" because they have deep pockets. I don't even factor this in. I don't take my care someplace and go "well, if they screw up, they have enough $ to fix it." I take it to a place that I expect will do it right the first time, and avoid that problem all together. Same reason I don't generally buy warranties... "I am going to pay more $ expecting this product to break." I just buy a product that costs more and has been reviewed/has a track record of not breaking.

My advice is to find a REPUTABLE installer/shop. If they are reputable you can trust them no matter if they are a big box shop or small mom and pop operation. just make sure they are atleast MECP certified.
I agree, it's all about Buyer Beware and doing your homework before dropping off your baby with a stranger. I, and many others, are simply offering their suggestion to look places other than CC, Best Buy, or Tweeter... because they have earned reputations among many of the audiophile community of producing poor results. If they didn't, people wouldn't have to drive 4-5 hours to see you, there would be another "you" in their home town Best Buy.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by achen
Do you guys think it's necessary in our cars?
Absolutely. Midbass + g35 door panels = terrible rattle noises.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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cmayer i work at Best Buy also, im a PCHO sales guy though. The guys in install bay seem cool but i never see them working on anything more than a Civic, thats why im a lil hesitant to give them my G.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hye_G
cmayer i work at Best Buy also, im a PCHO sales guy though. The guys in install bay seem cool but i never see them working on anything more than a Civic, thats why im a lil hesitant to give them my G.
this kind of applies to everywhere else. civics are way more common then our G's. ratio of like 10/1.
u just gotta take it to the right person,right time, and the right place. but what im worried about is if they are honest or not. hahaha. very sceptical sometimes..
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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i guess i am just a rare installer. i work on every vehicle like it were my G. and yes most of the cars that BB, CC and other larger store work on are your average civic. i work on civics to $100,000 porsches, semi's rvs everything, it just depends on your area.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Saying all tweeter/BB/CC stores are bad is a stereotype no matter which way you sling it. If the one in central CA does a horrible job, then the one in the bottom of SD is going to also? No. They do have a bad rap, but there are some competent installers out there that actually do the job right the first time. For someone to say theyre ALL bad is a stereotype.

The smaller stores Generally will do a better job as their livelyhood depends on it. Are their hackers out there? Of course, but the smaller stores need their customers to be happy as theyre no making a ton of money on CDs/TVs/Refridgerators,computers,etc..

Just go around and speak to friends and do a search in your general area for a shop that You will feel confortable with.

MECP to me means Squat.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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MECP to me means Squat.

just cusious, why do you say that?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I'm getting pretty much the exact same things installed. 2 amps, components, and a sub in 4080 box. I already have the wiring kits and I was thinking about either going to Sound Advice in Mission Viejo or Circuit City on Jamboree to get it installed. Not sure if I want to do sound deadening though. Do you guys think it's necessary in our cars?
hey achen you live in irvine? or close. we should meet up sometimes. we might have the same ride. lol. my G's blk/blk fully loaded. thinking of getting the black/sf rims as well and audio is basically the same.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cmayer
just cusious, why do you say that?

Unfortunately now Im stereotyping a bit. IT may have came across a bit more harsh than I had intended. In many years of experience Ive hired and fired tons of MECP installers, this of course being the one directly out of school. They had the "I got certified, so Im the greatest" type of attitude. In which case most of them fell short of even knowing how to install a HU.

If it was a case of hiring a MECP certified person or someone with a few years of actual field experience (although not for a shop) I would most likely chosse the latter canidate. Of course either would be on a trial; basis first.
 
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