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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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800 photos I had to go through to find ONE...ouch.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Great thread! Very good reads!!!

I'm sorry I missed this - it's unfortunate that the drag strip was scheduled to have its very rare Street Legals race day on Sat... for various reason I couldn’t sched both. As it turned out the drag strip was cancelled due to rain on Fri I guess... I tried calling DaveO to see if I could get in the Nissan Performance Fest Sat, but no answer…

Beautiful weekend for racing! I'm glad you all had a good time! Congrats Dee Dee, Wow you got props to the G37, nice!

Eagle1, your posts are extremely informative! Very rewarding reads indeed! Particularly your recommendations for brake upgrades (for moderate tracking)… glad I read this prior to full BBK.

Thanks… and I hope to make the next such event!
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagle1
The toughest parts to learn were, not surprisingly, the compound turns at the end of the Roval, the buttonhook hairpin at the end of the eastbound infield straight, and the double compound turns at the end of the westbound infield straight......and for some the 110 degree right to left with the tire wall behind.
You know, I just realized that these are all the corners that require a very late turn in. Early turn in and early apexing are common with newer drivers/riders. It takes more of a mental commitment to keep from turning in early.
Slow in, fast out.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pantablo
You know, I just realized that these are all the corners that require a very late turn in. Early turn in and early apexing are common with newer drivers/riders. It takes more of a mental commitment to keep from turning in early.
Slow in, fast out.
Yep, you nailed it. But being a bike rider you already have that down very well from your experience. The only thing worse than early apexing a corner with a tire wall behind it in a car, is doing it on a bike and getting up close and personal with no protection!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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i was there on saturday the first, show on the 2nd. i wanted to run on the 2nd, but i couldn't. i was itching though everytime i heard the cars go by, but i had to stick with the team.

hey ed, quick question: what is the best way to nail the buttonhook hairpin on the infield east end? from what i understand, as you blast through the "s," you settle the car and brake hard straight toward the first turn (7) and as you see the stripes to the right, hard turn in (8), and blast on through again. suggestions or thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Basically that is correct. The devil is in the detail.

Essentially, you need to back up to the chicane, and do the "analysis" from there.

The key on the chicane as you know is to "straighten" out the two turns to a single segment if you can. You stay wide right on the approach to the chicane, then anticipate the turn in so that you clip the first apex on the left and as you hit it you are already dialing in left to right turn to set the car and nip the apex on the right. If you do it right you are on throttle out of the first apex and hard through the second.

The inertia and momentum carry you with surprising speed out to track edge right. It is easy to get caught with your vision "down" off the nose here. You have to get your eyes up and to the right to pick your spot, and ease the nose of the car over. I do not like to follow the outside edge, but instead carry the speed hard and straight to the target point up ahead for turn in. The advantage of course is that you will not be thresh hold braking while turning and downshifting into that turn, which are spin generators.

The trick then is getting your head swiveled to the right while watching the edge of the track surface through peripheral vision to the left, but you MUST get that head turned to mark your apex on those candy stripes to the right. The apex is super late. Once you get comfortable with the line you can start playing with a bit of trail brake to rotate the nose around to let you get on the throttle even earlier.

Hope that helps.

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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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great tips. it's very easy to forget that where your head points has a lot to do with where the car goes
 
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagle1
Pablo that would be awsome! If we had something that when enlarged made for a map that had a three inch wide track lane, we could use markers to illustrate the line for different turns and it would enhance the learning experience a lot.

We will also bring dry board markers so we can do segments on the white boards next time.

See you out there again.
Ed,
Haven't gotten to this as soon as I had hoped but today I finally had my staff put something together for you. I might have to tweak it a bit and I'd like to email you a PDF to review sometime tomorrow.
We looked at doing the track width at 3" but it looked terrible-you lose some turn detail through the infield chicane and hairpin in particular. We went with a 2" track width instead. I think that should be fine.

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