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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Three clear laps of Sebring

Some of you may have noticed I just posted videos from Sebring a couple of weeks ago. But, the video I taped that I was most happy with was too big for streetfire.net. Now I am able to share these laps during the second novice session of the day with the help of Kolia, a premier member of this sight...THANK YOU VERY MUCH. My video was edited at the beginning, given a cover title, compressed a bit to be more managable, and put into wide screen.

Now my idea of a perfect racetrack was an empty one as this was only my second outing, so you won't see alot of cars on track in these 10 minutes of video. I wave by a 911 at the beginning, then later catch a Z3, older M3, and a couple of S2000's. This session, which was about 35 minutes, was good enough to win much praise from my instructor and give me high enough scores that I could probably request a solo test at my next day at Sebring with Chinmotorsports. They were nice words to hear. But, my two instructors so far have made my introduction into tracking very fun and informative...so I am not in a big rush just yet to have to start driving alone.

Being new I have been pretty easy on the brakes so my Hawk HPS pads did fine. I got a bit squirly coming out of the Buttonhole(the tightest righthander) which is a second gear corner, and turn 14(the right hander corner starting the esses just before turn 16 takes you on the back straight) near the end of the day. Those got me some good car control grades since I controlled and recovered from my tailhappy antics. Coming out of the Buttonhole it was due to power-on oversteer. In turn 14 it was a bit of power-off oversteer. These were two seperate laps...and not on the video...and got the comment "well that was fun" from my instructor. By the end of the day at the beginning of every session Bart would say, "ok, put my to sleep" since he hardly having to correct/coach me I did a funny vibration in the last session of the day which was a vibration on hard righthand corners. Not wanting to be an example on some "not what to do" video I came into the pits. Was I getting a flat, something in the suspension, a wheel bearing....nope! It was just some glopped on rubber I had picked up from the race track. What a trip scraping hot mushy rubber off my Michelins and washing rubber worms from inside my rims the next day in my driveway! Any seasoned person I am sure would have known it was no big deal, but for a nuub on the racetrack with his nice and cherished G35 he wanted to drive home...I was a bit freaked until I pitted the car.

So here are the videos.
First: It is three laps on an almost empty Sebring track. Right click and "Save Target As". It is a quicktime video.

http://www.alexandre-malouin.com/Dow...ring_large.mov

Second: Six minutes with my camera pointed to me...so you can see my ugly mug, the seat move around, and hear me say " I wish my friend with the Cobra could have seen that" when I passed another novice in a super charge Cobra. Oh, and you can see the bonus headroom you can have with no sunroof.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0FCAF090-78BD-464C-8169-8227ECBDE386.htm


 

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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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this was from my first day at Sebring with NASA

NASA membership: $40.00
1-Day entry fee to Historic Sebring Raceway: $285.00
Extra Maintenance Costs: $80.00 and counting
The chance to ride in a 911 racecar: Apparently $285.00 and some good luck.
Getting to drive my own G35 coupe around Sebring with an experienced racer coaching me: Apparently $285.00… But I thought the experience was priceless.

Around 4:00 AM the alarm clock rings to start one of the most exciting days of my automotive life…I was too cheap to pay for an overnight stay near the racetrack. My wonderful wife, full of fear of me being injured or killed, makes me some coffee and makes me a care package for the day. She just lost both of her parents in the last year and half, so letting me go was not easy for her. I leave with a kiss and a wave goodbye. After driving in the dark for almost 2 hours the first hint of light begins to show as I pull up to the gates of heaven ..uh.. Sebring Raceway. I arrive a few minutes early and am one of the first cars. That means I get to use/park in one of the track’s pit garages

I unload my goodies for the day, food, water, tools, brake pads, helmet, oil, brake fluid. Luckily I did not need any of the automotive supplies I brought. I checked all the fluid levels, tire pressure, say a little prayer. Put on my magnetic numbers I made with the help of my wife getting the supplies…take a picture. Am I really at Sebring with my own pit! I met some nice people, went through tech, attended my class, and then joined the line of cars on pit lane to meet our instructors.

Walt comes up, I introduce myself, we talk about my car, his past experience, and my experience and expectations for the day. I told him that I play a lot of simulation games… he was unimpressed. I told him I was comfortable pushing my car a bit around the local interstate ramps…he was unimpressed. I told him I could heel and toe and my goals were to have fun and not injure myself or the car. Walt said we would get along fine. So we get in the car and appreciate the extra headroom from not having a sunroof. We have plenty of room even with our helmets on. He drives for two laps, we switch and I proceed to drive like I must have had my eyes closed while Walt was trying to show me the line. But at 3.7 miles and 17 turns, it is a bit hard to remember the line in only two laps. After the 35 minute session that seemed like 10 minutes, we park the car. Walt asks me if I would like to ride with him during his session in his 911 racecar to see where the smoothest line is… HELL YEAH! That ride time really gave me a huge head start over my fellow drivers that had no experience like me. During my second and third sessions, I was certainly not the fastest driver, of course, but I did “pass” a Mustang Cobra, and two Corvettes… one of which was a Z06. During the last session when I caught the Z06 again, Walt said “You know the driver of that Z06 must be pissed he getting passed by an Infiniti G35.” Hehehe. About 15 minutes later in the session the driver of the Z06 caught back up and passed me. He had finally started to really learn the correct line. His instructor did not give him a 35 minute ride in his race car

I made a couple major mistakes, at least in my opinion. I just about dropped a wheel off the track just before the start of a rumble strip. Walt told me if I was any farther over there was a bit of a hole/dip before the start of the rumble strip that could have caused some damage if I hit it. Turn 17 was also the hardest for me to learn. So after passing an inexperienced driver in the Cobra, and keeping up with a somewhat experienced guy in I think a Porsche 926, Walt says “ok, we only need to get turn 17 right” as I’m going through turn 16. I then proceed to attempt 17 way too fast, forgetting that the 180 degree turn tightens up half way through. I let off the gas, the front end plows a bit, then I felt some quick hits on the brakes as the VDC helps the car rotate in the direction the front wheels are pointing. Yes, I left the VDC on and it interfered very little. At the Button Hole it came on fairly often and was annoying, but I realized I was trying to get on the gas too soon. Once my line was smooth, the VDC almost never came on, and I was very happy for the help in turn 17. This was the last time I really screwed up turn 17. During the third session Walt told me I finally figured out the turn and I was fairly consistent.

The concentration required is unbelievable, even at my noobie pace. You are directing and controlling your car at high speeds, looking in you mirrors for people catching you to let them pass, trying to look at the corner workers to make sure no flags are being waved, looking ahead, hearing and feeling for any signs you car is starting to go away…like the brakes and tires. I was being as easy as I could on the brakes and did not rev the engine above 5500. I usually had the revs no higher than 5000. I didn’t want to break the car, especially at a track event. I can’t wait until I can go again

I was so busy looking at where I was going, I couldn’t even tell you my speeds in the corners…just the gear and an approximation of rpm’s. I can say there are four places you can easily exceed 100mph. So turn 1 your in fourth gear, apex near the wall and floor it at apex drift out and hold fourth gear through turn two & reach about 5500rpm. Brake, keep to the right, shift in to third and don’t turn in too early. Left into 3, right into 4, stay to the right and if you don’t turn in too early to the left going into 5 you can floor it before you even reach the apex. I shift through fourth gear, fifth around turn 7 at full throttle, but shifting around 5000. This is where I am catching some inexperienced people in faster cars, because my instructor had me going through the previous esses so smoothly. Trying to be easy on the brakes, I start to slow before the bridge, fourth, third, and should be second gear but I’m getting on the gas too early in the buttonhole hairpin and upsetting the VDC so I stayed in third. You are then full throttle through turns 8 & 9 reaching about 100 again. Slow for turn 10, fifth, fourth, then get into third gear, don’t apex early and ease on the gas at the apex… drift to the left. Its gas on, shift into fourth gear through the left hand turn 11, touch the rumble strip on right at 12. I then straighten the car, brake, third gear as you let the car drift to the left side of the track. If you once again don’t turn in too early, you can get on the gas at the apex of the right hand turn of 13. Full throttle, fourth gear, fifth gear and ease off the gas just a bit and fly through the left turn of 14 and remember to let the car drift out to the right after 14’s first apex because there is another left apex coming…because if you can’t turn for the second apex there is a wall waiting to greet you. You need to stay on the left side of the track after the second apex, straighten up and brake for turn 15, shift into fourth gear. Another set of esses which I love…right, left and continue to drift out to the left wide. If you do this right, you can get a pretty straight shot at the right hand turn 16, get on the gas before the apex, let the right side tires get on the rumble strip and out to the left as you enter the longest straight at Sebring. You will go through fifth gear and get into sixth if you are short shifting like I am to be as easy on the car as possible. I brake, fifth gear, then fourth and finally learn to take turn 17 kind of like a three apex turn. Fastest at the first apex, and continue to SLOW DOWN with a tiny hint of trail braking. If you succeed at this, at least to some degree in my case, you can start getting on the gas just after you pass the second apex. I was not getting much of a launch out of 17 since I kept the car in fourth gear, though I should have been in third. But I took so long to learn a smooth and quick line through the long right hander I didn’t want to change anything. You then accelerate out of 17, get into fifth gear, move to the right side of the track, brake, shift into fourth…start all over again

I leave the track about 5:30PM and try to drive like a normal law abiding person on the 2 hour drive home playing in my mind over and over the wonderful day I had with my Infiniti G35 coupe
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Old May 1, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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I just read my own posts and thought I should clarify that my video are from my second track day experience with Chin Motorsports...the second post and story was from my first track day with NASA.
 
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Old May 1, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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nice posts - makes me wanna drive autox...
 
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/78f8ffd5-8519-4c8c-93d2-9855015f18ba.htm
Just completed my third track day I wish I had the money to go more that once every six months. I did qualify to go solo...YEAH!!! Not much more to say than what is in the previous entries in this thread. Car did great...Driver did ok. I was certaining was not the fastest driver on the track, nor will I ever be. But, I was consistent and safe enough to be recommended for a Solo test for this track, car was perfectly reliable, and I came home in one piece. After my last session...the first ever time going out by my self, you could hear the tires literally stick to the concrete as I was driving through pit lane. Probably not the first time the tires were that hot, but the first time I notice the sound Time to start saving for the next time!!!

I have been shifting at about 1000 rpm short of red-line to try to be as easy on my car as possible. Any comment from other much more experienced VQ35 track-drivers. Am I being too conservative on the motor...aka "this practice is not necessary"
 

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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dothemath
. Any comment from other much more experienced VQ35 track-drivers. Am I being too conservative on the motor...aka "this practice is not necessary"
Not necessary.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Thanks. Sweet Vids in your signiture. Judging by your line and speed, and reading your other posts you obviously have many track days behind you. I should be going to Sebring again in Jan. or Feb. I will take your advise that I don't need to be so conservative on the motor.

Rob
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Then, before pushing it at next event, you might like to flush the brake fluid and switch to Motul 600 or similar.

Where/how did you mount the camcorder?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Here...home made as I am sure you can see



Have been making sure to change the brake fluid but not using special fluids such as the Motul 600 you mention. I'm thinking your are correct since I believe I was starting to feel the brake pedal get a bit mushy at the end of the day. Better safe than sorry.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Cool post, sounds like you had a lot of fun. Reminds me a bit of my first (and only..so far...) track day. I had a very helpful instructor, he took me out on the track first in my car, which was kinda scary trusting someone else with my 'baby' driving it that hard. The first time on the track with me driving was pretty bad, I stunk up the place and the harder I tried, the worse I got. After that I sat with my instructor and he drew some things out for me, gave me some things to try and some things to think about. I got much better (relative) the second time out. By the third time out I at least felt I was competent in most of the turns, although I could never get one whole lap where I didn't blow at least two or three turns (the course I was on was pretty technical, in full configuration it was something like 26 turns, with lots of elevation changes etc.). At the end of the day my instructor signed-off for me to go solo next time out. But I recently bought new wheels/tires so now I'm scrambling to get some track wheels/tires so I can get back to the track
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Nice, I love the video in your sig. Just remember to race the corners and drive the straits. You did great for your first time though.
Thanks!
 
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