Tanabe Sustec Pro S-0C Full Coilovers
Tanabe Sustec Pro S-0C Full Coilovers
Has anyone looked into these coilovers? Just wondering. The fronts spings are 10K and the rears are 8K. On their site, they have the kit with helper springs for $1100 and without helpers for $1000. Is it because the dampening level isn't adjustable on these? I've had these on my Accord, with the adjustable damper, and fell in love. Any experience with the S-0s?
yea ive been looking at these for a while. the dampening flevel isnt adjustable, which does lower the cost. i also think it is cheaper because it might not contain the pillowball upper mounts.
what exactly are you planning on doing with te coilovers? track and daily?
-mike
what exactly are you planning on doing with te coilovers? track and daily?
-mike
Pillow ball mounts do little to nothing on a car that cannot adjust camber from that point. They also will inject undue noise ,vibration and harshness with no performance gain as a reward, not unless said manufactuer uses some sort of rubber isolation rings where the springs mount up (not talking about hard plastic).
This is what the Tanabe site say's about their use of helper springs.
Helper Springs
Helper springs assist with rebound stability, ride comfort and keep the main coil spring seated. Preload of the main spring can also be set to zero, for maximum comfort and suspension travel. Non helper spring models are also available for a lower cost.
For the above to be true, it means your setting the car up at a specific ride height, the chances of which are in doubt. You'll have to be the one that decides if it's worth $100.
Also, study the drop specs here. http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6 You'll have to use the 350Z drop range and reduce them by about a 1/2" for a G35 coupe.
Spring rates are fine IMO, providing the damping is suffecient of course.
This is what the Tanabe site say's about their use of helper springs.
Helper Springs
Helper springs assist with rebound stability, ride comfort and keep the main coil spring seated. Preload of the main spring can also be set to zero, for maximum comfort and suspension travel. Non helper spring models are also available for a lower cost.
For the above to be true, it means your setting the car up at a specific ride height, the chances of which are in doubt. You'll have to be the one that decides if it's worth $100.
Also, study the drop specs here. http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6 You'll have to use the 350Z drop range and reduce them by about a 1/2" for a G35 coupe.
Spring rates are fine IMO, providing the damping is suffecient of course.
For all intensive purposes, most people will use the Type II without the helper springs and save money. Most people cannot tell the different between the two models, since the helper spring is only located on the front of the suspension.
Part of the reason why there are helper spring models offered is because Japan road worthiness laws dictate the need for the main coil spring to be seated at all times. If there is any play in the main coil spring during compression or rebound stages, it is considered a safety hazard. The non helper spring model has 20mm longer springs to ensure that the springs are always seated.
We typically recommend the Type II model for 350Z/G owners.
Part of the reason why there are helper spring models offered is because Japan road worthiness laws dictate the need for the main coil spring to be seated at all times. If there is any play in the main coil spring during compression or rebound stages, it is considered a safety hazard. The non helper spring model has 20mm longer springs to ensure that the springs are always seated.
We typically recommend the Type II model for 350Z/G owners.
Honestly, my car might not ever see the track, but I've had the Tanabes Pro SS Type I on my old Accord, and it was awesome, firm, but not at all violent or unsettleling at 2 in the fron and 5 in the back.
i too can vouch for Tanabe coilovers. they're really good build quality, and comfort minded. i don't recommend the Type II's if you frequent the strip/track though. mainly street driving. if you want extrememe coilover by Tanabe, get the Seven.
Thank you for the input guys, the SEVEN is the most advanced suspension that we currently offer. It is a streetable suspension, but it is definitely oriented towards users who will be trying to get the most out of that suspension.
It takes a bit to out drive the suspension on a stock car, and the bar is further raised when you start upgrading the suspension, and adding more adjustability. SEVEN is for people who are already outdriving a high performance suspension and need something even more aggressive. TEAS is strongly recommended if used on the G, as the rear adjustments can be difficult to make with the space provided.
It takes a bit to out drive the suspension on a stock car, and the bar is further raised when you start upgrading the suspension, and adding more adjustability. SEVEN is for people who are already outdriving a high performance suspension and need something even more aggressive. TEAS is strongly recommended if used on the G, as the rear adjustments can be difficult to make with the space provided.
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Originally Posted by 05Scoobyroo
Tanabe USA, Why don't they make the Pro SS in a G35/350Z Application?
The website doesn't state the lowering ranges for these coilovers for the G35.
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6
Are they the same as the 350z? I'm hoping that's true. I believe it said it can drop up to 1.75" in the front and 1.5" in the rear for the 350z. That is much better than the Tein Basics (1.1" drop in the rear).
Could you verify this? If this is true, I may very likely get the Tanabe Sustec S-0Cs instead.
Can anybody compare the Tein Basics and the S-0Cs (someone that has ridden in both setups)?
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6
Are they the same as the 350z? I'm hoping that's true. I believe it said it can drop up to 1.75" in the front and 1.5" in the rear for the 350z. That is much better than the Tein Basics (1.1" drop in the rear).
Could you verify this? If this is true, I may very likely get the Tanabe Sustec S-0Cs instead.
Can anybody compare the Tein Basics and the S-0Cs (someone that has ridden in both setups)?
Last edited by jimgpark; Jul 12, 2006 at 09:59 PM.
Originally Posted by jimgpark
The website doesn't state the lowering ranges for these coilovers for the G35.
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6
Are they the same as the 350z? I'm hoping that's true. I believe it said it can drop up to 1.75" in the front and 1.5" in the rear for the 350z. That is much better than the Tein Basics (1.1" drop in the rear).
Could you verify this? If this is true, I may very likely get the Tanabe Sustec S-0Cs instead.
Can anybody compare the Tein Basics and the S-0Cs (someone that has ridden in both setups)?
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/...tions.asp?id=6
Are they the same as the 350z? I'm hoping that's true. I believe it said it can drop up to 1.75" in the front and 1.5" in the rear for the 350z. That is much better than the Tein Basics (1.1" drop in the rear).
Could you verify this? If this is true, I may very likely get the Tanabe Sustec S-0Cs instead.
Can anybody compare the Tein Basics and the S-0Cs (someone that has ridden in both setups)?
Here's the drop specs of the Tanabe's if run on a G35 coupe, simply converted the Z specs by adding in .5"
F+1/2 in~-1 1/4 in / R+1/2~-1 in
From Tein's site we know that Basic's drop the coupe
F -0.7" ~ -2.6" R +0.2 ~ -1.2
I know you'll like to hear from anyone that's ridden on both coilovers, but given how tiny the Tanabe owner pool is, I fear you won't get what your looking for as far as a reply. IMO, I would do a post on my350Z Titled, "Anyone driven on Tein basics AND Tanabe S-0Cs?"
Two things strike me about the S-0Cs, one I prefer it's higher front spring rate. And two, the chance that they will have a smidge better dampning. While Basic owner review's are generally alway's good, one comment does pop up in a lot of those basic review's, and that's the word "bounce (y)" (Though I am still somewhat troubled by a Road&Track article a couple of years ago where they had a tuner 350Z that had Tanabe coilovers on and they didn't have very nice things to say about the suspension, I dunno).


