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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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simplest way of lowering '05 coupe...

..first off guys, I SEARCHED!!...but there is such a vast amount of material on here about springs, I couldn't find a direct answer to my question....I'm looking to lower an '05 6mt coupe without having to use any camber kits...I just wanna reduce my fender gap....any suggestions?...thanx in advance

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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350z h techs
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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can't lower very much without camber kits..... save up a little longer and get the look you really want. Saying that, if roads are real crappy where you live than the 350 springs are probably best option.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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thanx....and I guess the reason why I'm seeing more recommendations for the 350z h techs is because they have a higher spring rate than the ones for the g?...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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I have the tien s techs and love them
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Ummm, I really don't understand why people use kits designed for other cars (ie the 350z kit). It may work but I don't see how it can work as well as a kit designed specifically for our car. The 350z is lighter so I'm sure the spring rates are a bit different, that would be why the kits are different and not Z/G kits. I have an eibach pro kit for the G35. It works great, and looks great too. This is why I think it would not be a good idea to put the 350z kit on. The springs in these kits are progressive, meaning the more they compress the more they stiffin up. When I have 3 or 4 people in the car my G rides significatly rougher. This is because the spring compress and the ride gets stiffer. If you start off with an extra 500 pounds than the spring were designed (this is what I've heard is the weight difference between the G and Z) then you are gonna have a rougher ride, not sure how much rougher but it will definatly be rougher. That is just my 2 cents. I do however like my kit and would reccomend the Eibach Pro kit. I would not however reccomend the street kit because I have high centered on speed bumps with this kit once or twice (with people in the car) and it's not something I would want to happen more often. It's already low enough (one finger gap). Also it will take a couple months for the kit to settle. It's probably a half inch lower than when it was originally installed.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Ummm, I really don't understand why people use kits designed for other cars (ie the 350z kit). It may work but I don't see how it can work as well as a kit designed specifically for our car. The 350z is lighter so I'm sure the spring rates are a bit different, that would be why the kits are different and not Z/G kits. I have an eibach pro kit for the G35. It works great, and looks great too. This is why I think it would not be a good idea to put the 350z kit on. The springs in these kits are progressive, meaning the more they compress the more they stiffin up. When I have 3 or 4 people in the car my G rides significatly rougher. This is because the spring compress and the ride gets stiffer. If you start off with an extra 500 pounds than the spring were designed (this is what I've heard is the weight difference between the G and Z) then you are gonna have a rougher ride, not sure how much rougher but it will definatly be rougher. That is just my 2 cents. I do however like my kit and would reccomend the Eibach Pro kit. I would not however reccomend the street kit because I have high centered on speed bumps with this kit once or twice (with people in the car) and it's not something I would want to happen more often. It's already low enough (one finger gap). Also it will take a couple months for the kit to settle. It's probably a half inch lower than when it was originally installed.
You don't know what you are talking about. 350z springs are always stiffer than the g35 application, which is why people use them. Your analogy to having multiple people in the car on progressive springs is becuase you are likely limiting your suspension travel with that many people in the car. With a higher springrate and linear springs, loading multiple people in the car would have a better ride than your car on the eibachs. The eibachs are not really meant for performance because of their soft springrate and progressive setup. Anyone looking to actually increase the performance of their ride will use something that isn't progressive and with similar or higher springrates than stock. To achieve this, 350z applications are usually needed.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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so theres nothing wrong with the 350z tein s tech and h tech. i want to lower my g but i dont want a bad ride. should i just get the tein coilovers wit the shocks.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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ok im interested in some Tein Basics or CS...what would you guys recommend? HOw much more stiff is the Basic to the CS? I know the basics dont have any dampending adjustability. what do you guys recommend. im a daily driver and i just want something with a more agressive look that keep the stock handling characteristics or better. i dont want a setup that will make my car worse off! I need some honest input on the feel of the basics vs cs! ive been reading on stuff but still havent gotten a concrete answer to my questions. basics are adjustable in height right? are the cs heigh adjustable? will i need both front and rear camber or just front with toe? sorry if im diverting from this thread, just didnt want to start another thread! =)
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
You don't know what you are talking about. 350z springs are always stiffer than the g35 application, which is why people use them. Your analogy to having multiple people in the car on progressive springs is becuase you are likely limiting your suspension travel with that many people in the car. With a higher springrate and linear springs, loading multiple people in the car would have a better ride than your car on the eibachs. The eibachs are not really meant for performance because of their soft springrate and progressive setup. Anyone looking to actually increase the performance of their ride will use something that isn't progressive and with similar or higher springrates than stock. To achieve this, 350z applications are usually needed.
Well I definitely cannot comment on anything but the Eibachs because that is what I have and unlike most people on these boards I don't like to talk out of my a$$ . I understand that linear springs are used in track cars because they are designed for performance, at least the ones we are talking about here. The problem with linear springs is that they are either setup to be soft and comfortable or stiff and harsh, it's one way or the other since the spring rate is linear. I strongly believe that most people out there building G's are not building track only cars, and therefore would like a car that was comfortable enough to be a daily driver. Progressive springs are used so that small bumps and variations in the road are not felt but when the springs are loaded from a sharp turn then you get the benifits of a stiffer spring rate. Why not have your cake and eat it too?!
 

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by G Money
Well I definitely cannot comment on anything but the Eibachs because that is what I have and unlike most people on these boards I don't like to talk out of my a$$ . I understand that linear springs are used in track cars because they are designed for performance, at least the ones we are talking about here. The problem with linear springs is that they are either setup to be soft and comfortable or stiff and harsh, it's one way or the other since the spring rate is linear. I strongly believe that most people out there building G's are not building track only cars, and therefore would like a car that was comfortable enough to be a daily driver. Progressive springs are used so that small bumps and variations in the road are not felt but when the springs are loaded from a sharp turn then you get the benifits of a stiffer spring rate. Why not have your cake and eat it too?!
Still doesn't answer why you wouldn't use 350z springs, its about springrates, not application. Depending on what someone wants from their spring setup in terms of drop and performance, I could recommend both a g35 or 350z application that would fit, since there is so much overlap between applications. As far as progressive springs are concerned, thats a whole other issue that I don't want to get started on. By the time they reach their peak springrate, the suspension will have compressed too much and your body roll will be significant.
 
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