exactly! lol i just posted this b/c i thought itd be funny since everyone (including myself) always complains about how expensive the arc one is and wants a cheap alternative. well...here you go LOL

 

would i buy it for $26?? f*ck no! but i'm not buyin' a damn piece of metal for $400-$680 either...at least i hope not

 

well depends what you want to do with your car..if your looking to road race it then you need one IMO. Look at the 350z part of the reason why it handles so well. comes stock with one

-sean

 

well, it's true that it depends what you use it for. i just hope that those that spend that kind of coin would use it for something like road racing. i mean, is it really gonna make a different on the freeway, or when you make that right turn into the driveway going to vons go buy groceries?

i have seen so many threads that support the (VRT) bars, but most of those threads were like "wow, i could feel the difference going up my driveway" or "changing lanes on the freeway sure does feel dandy!"

here's a challenge, same car, same driver, with the bar on, and with the bar off...compare lap times. is that simple enough. i don't care about "torsional rigidity" and blah blah blah....does the damn thing work or not?

 

Yeah, true...people that spend the money you would think do put it to good use. I know that there is a difference when just driving down the road since it reduces the body flex significantly, but its not like its going to safe your life or add mad HP like those stickers.

-sean

 

so you mean my "powered by honda" sticker isn't worth $h*t!?! i spent $1.6m on that thing!

ps-and here we are AGAIN with those damn spelling errors!

 

just goes to prove. you can take the boy from the islands...but, you cant take the islands from the boy.

I would if we still had the track but hey, at least we still got Tantalus. If anyone from VRT ever takes a vacation to here...I'll take them on an on "Akina" run. LOL

 

hahah sorry i type faster than i think..."save" there! its fixed!

-sean

 

tantalus?? you're in oahu?? what happened to the track?? i always liked old pali hwy and kamehameha/pali intersection....

 

yup...you sure have sucky short term memory LOL . I was the one that always promoted Super Laps and Drift Session on the Hawaii side before you left. I think you had ran once too.

The track closed because the lease has ended and the owners of the land sold it to someone else and basically kicked us to the curb, rendering us taking it elsewhere. Auto-X moved to the stadium, and XD-1 is making it's apperance regularly there too. That place is just way to small for the drifters and we're trying to look for another place. Since the track closed...tantalus has been in tight police watch. most of the guys I know that take it there take them at odd hours. There's a few other places that we go too.

 

yeah, i have a bad memory, especially when it comes to screen names i remember when i first got out there, david, george, and herb took me over to tantalus at like 11pm. i was bored and posted, and they replied so we met up! it was great. i sure do miss the twisties of oahu...

 

Can you imagine it now without the track? Been trying to pick up different hobbies to keep me busy on the weekends. Hopefully we can get some place bigger than the stadium grounds...SOON. limiting drifts to 30-40mph sucks.

 

yeah, you wouldn't want to fall off the side of a mountain or anything

 

haha...I seen a lot of those. Especially the motorcycle guys.

 

I completely agree...... I have already done that.
I have no desire to make a product like this front strut tower brace (or anything like it) if it does not aid in the consistency and performance of the car, bottom line. I know that someone is gonna say that my opinion is just a ploy to sell more of these (PITA things) and that its all part of my "get rich quick scheme" Hahaha (what a joke)
BTW, the profit margin on these things are pretty slim after taking in account material costs, fabrication, jigs, powdercoating, product liability insurance, etc.

When these braces where first made and installed I, and anyone else for that matter who has driven a car with our front STB installed can feel the difference right away. I knew it had to be an improvement on handling, but I was not convinced quite yet until I track tested it. I only had to do a couple of back to back tests at Willow Springs with the brace disconnected, and then with it connected to see the lap times where not dramatically lower, yet they were marginally faster with the bar connected, but the "all important" consistency of the lap times was where the improvement was apparent. I then repeated the process at California Speedway just to back up my findings.

They work, otherwise I would not bother making them, believe me.