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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:27 AM
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Hey I'm new and I owned an 04 coupe g35 w/ Brembo. I'm interested in lowering my car and perhaps add 19" wheels. I like to know what is a good drop without rubbing or scrapping. Also, I'm kind of on a budget and was thinking maybe good springs if anyone can recommend any that will give me a comfortable ride. I heard I need to align my car after, but wondered if I need camber kit or can I get away with it.

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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Most aftermarket lowering springs would be fine. Maybe try some Eibach Pro-Kit springs, and yes you will need to align your car no matter what drop springs you get, and no (being on a budget) with a slight drop on 19" wheels you should not need a camber kit and (depending on your offset) nothing is likely to rub.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Clam
Hey I'm new and I owned an 04 coupe g35 w/ Brembo. I'm interested in lowering my car and perhaps add 19" wheels. I like to know what is a good drop without rubbing or scrapping. Also, I'm kind of on a budget and was thinking maybe good springs if anyone can recommend any that will give me a comfortable ride. I heard I need to align my car after, but wondered if I need camber kit or can I get away with it.

Any other suggestion will be appreciated.

Thanks
in order to get the most out of your tires, you're going to want a camber correction kit for any drop - conservative or aggressive. i know a few people on the eibach pro kit and they're camber is whack. if you really don't want camber correction kits, go with something conservative like g35 or 350z tein h tech springs.

put it this way, if you're going to lower the car - do it right. don't cut corners/expenses to save a little now. in the long run, you will pay more.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Let say if I get Tein H tech springs. Will ride quality change or be about the same?? Will a 1" drop hurt shock/ struts in the long run?? Do I need to get aftermarker struts/shocks?? I want to do it right on my suspension except I only have so much money to invest right now. So, lets say if I can get springs and not worry about shock/struts going out because its only 1" drop. Then I can look into getting Camber kit to correct my camber.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Also, get rims ....Haha.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
in order to get the most out of your tires, you're going to want a camber correction kit for any drop - conservative or aggressive. i know a few people on the eibach pro kit and they're camber is whack. if you really don't want camber correction kits, go with something conservative like g35 or 350z tein h tech springs.

put it this way, if you're going to lower the car - do it right. don't cut corners/expenses to save a little now. in the long run, you will pay more.
Not entirely true. You may know people with "whacked out camber" on Pro-kit springs, but believe me, whith a PROPER alignment that includes laser alignment of caster, CAMBER, and toe... I am sure I could get the car close to (if not in) the factory specs. Hell, a G or Z on stock springs could have "wacked out" alingment too. (Eibach Sportline springs are a different story)

I will agree nothing done to these cars should be done on too tight of a budgett, but with a mild drop, all factory specs can be reached if the technician knows what he is doing. Trusy me
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Thanks Wa2Good. Its make more since now.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Which springs is good anyways? Something that will provide smooth and comfortable feel. I don't want to bounce all over the road like a boat...lol.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wa2good
Not entirely true. You may know people with "whacked out camber" on Pro-kit springs, but believe me, whith a PROPER alignment that includes laser alignment of caster, CAMBER, and toe... I am sure I could get the car close to (if not in) the factory specs. Hell, a G or Z on stock springs could have "wacked out" alingment too. (Eibach Sportline springs are a different story)

I will agree nothing done to these cars should be done on too tight of a budgett, but with a mild drop, all factory specs can be reached if the technician knows what he is doing. Trusy me
but not everyone is as good as you thus not everyone will be able to get someone dropped on a prokit back into spec. heh.

besides, there is no room for adjustment in the front - correct? and grant was able to barely get my rear back into spec with 350z h techs (and that was a sh!tty drop in the rear). i'd assume he'd have a lot of trouble with the drop i have now and no camber kit.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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+1 350z H Techs..
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wa2good
Not entirely true. You may know people with "whacked out camber" on Pro-kit springs, but believe me, whith a PROPER alignment that includes laser alignment of caster, CAMBER, and toe... I am sure I could get the car close to (if not in) the factory specs. Hell, a G or Z on stock springs could have "wacked out" alingment too. (Eibach Sportline springs are a different story)

I will agree nothing done to these cars should be done on too tight of a budgett, but with a mild drop, all factory specs can be reached if the technician knows what he is doing. Trusy me
I'm not sure how you will get the front camber back in specs ore even close when its not adjustable, even if you are the best you won't be able to change something that isn't adjustable. Even with my h-techs the fronts are noticeable cambered and out of specs, so an eibach kit will be even more out of specs
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:04 AM
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aheroforeturnity and redlude97,

I was more or less refering to the rear wheels, since that is where most of the problems are. It is true, with the stock upper controll arm you can not adjust the camber, but with a mild drop, most cars end up at about in the -1.6 to 1.8 range of negative camber. The factory alignment specs allow for up to -1.3 degrees of negative camber in the front, so that isn't realy all that bad. That is barely enough to notice and heck the car handles better with more negative camber anyways, LOL
The rear factory settings allow for -2.1 camber, and most factory cars end up about -3 degrees when they have a mild drop, but like I said, atleast the rear IS slightly adjustable (stock).
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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If you decide to go for the 350z setup, make sure you go for the REVISED, I just bought a pair from one of the member w/ false advertisement & its bumpy as HELL!
 
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