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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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please end my confusion of camber kits w/ teins

okay, so i've sent some PMs to some vendors about tein s.tech springs and if they need camber kits...

one says yes... other says no..

which!?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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No if you plan on rotating and flipping tires often and living with shorter tire life.

Yes if you want more normal tirewear.

Rear camber highly recommended. Front is up to you.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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G s-techs or Z s-techs? it really depends on your alignment. general rule is, if more than 1" then yes.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vtb11
okay, so i've sent some PMs to some vendors about tein s.tech springs and if they need camber kits...

one says yes... other says no..

which!?
Let me clear ur confusion once and for all.

I was in ur situation 2 years ago and when i got the G s-techs. U are going to have -1.5 to -2.0 camber in the back. Ur front is going to be at -1.2 because there is absolutelly not adjustment in the front. Your tow will be very close to normal in both rear and fronts and the caster is not adjustable at front and rear and has nothing to do with tire wear. Your tires should last u atleast 2 years with normal driving. I have been riding on my tires for over a year with many burnouts, launches, drag strips, and canyon runs. I had a big toe problem in the front and recently i realigned the car and it was back to normal.

My suggestion is to realign the car every year or so. But if u don't tear up a new a$$hole to ur car, u should have 0 problems getting the S-techs without the camber kit.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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yeah, i see the general rule of 1" then i should... i was looking to get the G s.techs, which are 1.2/.9 i believe.. correct me if im wrong of course

so even though the front is lowered more, front camber kit is more optional than rears? theyre fuggin expensive compared to rears!

basically, this is what i was planning to get : tein s.tech, stillen/hotchis sway set, and 19s to replace my stock 18s during the summer (back to 18s with winter tires when its cold)
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Let me clear ur confusion once and for all.

I was in ur situation 2 years ago and when i got the G s-techs. U are going to have -1.5 to -2.0 camber in the back. Ur front is going to be at -1.2 because there is absolutelly not adjustment in the front. Your tow will be very close to normal in both rear and fronts and the caster is not adjustable at front and rear and has nothing to do with tire wear. Your tires should last u atleast 2 years with normal driving. I have been riding on my tires for over a year with many burnouts, launches, drag strips, and canyon runs. I had a big toe problem in the front and recently i realigned the car and it was back to normal.

My suggestion is to realign the car every year or so. But if u don't tear up a new a$$hole to ur car, u should have 0 problems getting the S-techs without the camber kit.
very good explanation.. all while i was writing my own post lol

2years sounds nice, but if i were to get camber kit for the rear, would it be more like 3years? just trying to sort out the difference if any (because really, $140 or so for a camber rear kit isnt much at all, but then again, from a different perspective, thats 140 more i could use on some other upgrade )
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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very good explanation.. all while i was writing my own post lol

2years sounds nice, but if i were to get camber kit for the rear, would it be more like 3years? just trying to sort out the difference if any
I mean, it all depends how often u slide the car's a$$ around or launch the bitch from 3-4k rpm. It all contirbutes how quick ur tires are going to wear out. All the people that say ur tires are going to be gone they are all talking about uneven tire wear which is very minimal with alignment specs that i gave u. The key is to get the toe to factory or close to factory spec.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
Let me clear ur confusion once and for all.

I was in ur situation 2 years ago and when i got the G s-techs. U are going to have -1.5 to -2.0 camber in the back. Ur front is going to be at -1.2 because there is absolutelly not adjustment in the front. Your tow will be very close to normal in both rear and fronts and the caster is not adjustable at front and rear and has nothing to do with tire wear. Your tires should last u atleast 2 years with normal driving. I have been riding on my tires for over a year with many burnouts, launches, drag strips, and canyon runs. I had a big toe problem in the front and recently i realigned the car and it was back to normal.

My suggestion is to realign the car every year or so. But if u don't tear up a new a$$hole to ur car, u should have 0 problems getting the S-techs without the camber kit.
you're making generalizations based on your own experiences. his car will not necessarily react the same even if you are using the same suspension mod.

in fact, 2-3 people here have actually been able to get back into spec in the rear with stock camber arms - however, most have not been able to.

as far as how long tires last, 2 years is a long time (for me at least). there are more things to consider than just drivings habits/camber wear - such as the tires themselves, lol.

OP,

s-techs generally offer a fairly aggressive drop. in my experiences with the g35 s-techs, i think camber arms up front would be a wise decision. but if you really are skeptical, put the springs on...wait 2-3 weeks for them to settle, and visually judge your front camber and see if you'll need them then. a few hundred miles on aggressive camber isn't going to kill your tires.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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you're making generalizations based on your own experiences. his car will not necessarily react the same even if you are using the same suspension mod.

in fact, 2-3 people here have actually been able to get back into spec in the rear with stock camber arms - however, most have not been able to.

as far as how long tires last, 2 years is a long time (for me at least). there are more things to consider than just drivings habits/camber wear - such as the tires themselves, lol.

OP,

s-techs generally offer a fairly aggressive drop. in my experiences with the g35 s-techs, i think camber arms up front would be a wise decision. but if you really are skeptical, put the springs on...wait 2-3 weeks for them to settle, and visually judge your front camber and see if you'll need them then. a few hundred miles on aggressive camber isn't going to kill your tires.
good points... im tempted to buy the stechs and give it a shot... what about htechs? since theyre much less aggressive, would they even be noticeable/worth it? most everyone have definitely said i wouldnt need camber kits for htechs, but then i worry about it not even making a difference
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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good points... im tempted to buy the stechs and give it a shot... what about htechs? since theyre much less aggressive, would they even be noticeable/worth it? most everyone have definitely said i wouldnt need camber kits for htechs, but then i worry about it not even making a difference
i've had the 350z h techs and they don't look good without modifying the rear spring mounts.

both g35 and 350z h techs are subtle drops and are pointless without modification if you ask me.

but some people like subtle drops..just not me.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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i want to be subtle.. but not that subtle

looks like i will be getting stechs soon... are rear or front camber kits more important? they go hand-in-hand or could i just get rears and not fronts?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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get the spc/eibach rear camber kit.

you can get the front later if and when you find it necessary.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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thanks you rock

... does that mean i need to do 2 alignments after each kit (when bought separately... which i think theyd be like 6 months apart at the least bc im lookin at other mods)
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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ou'd want an alignment after you get the rear kit on and another after you get the front kit on.

you should get an alignment every 6 months IMO, anyway.

i've probably had about 20 or so in the past year.

btw, i'm not joking...LOL!
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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haha... comforting.. not really but im takin ur advice
 
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