View Poll Results: Which Spring Set do you recommend for me?
G35 H-Techs
7
25.93%
350Z H-Techs
11
40.74%
S-Techs
10
37.04%
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Flat Out - What drop can I do w/ no mod other than Springs?
Originally Posted by redlude97
They are different, all the suspensions are the same, but the spring length and the corresponding camber/toe ranges are different. By using 350z OEM springs, you are essentially just going to the 350z OEM alignment settings. That is why Texasscout doesn't notice wear issues on his sedan. 350z h-techs on a sedan will drop it 1.7-1.8", which will then cause issues on the sedan.
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my 03 coupe has been rollin on tein s.techs for over 3 years now.. on stock shocks.. still rides really nice.. dropped me about 1.2 in the front and about 1 in the back.. i had some camber issues but nothing drastic.. goodyear was able to put it back into specs for me without any aftermarket camber bolts, plates or arms
Originally Posted by Nismoboy
my 03 coupe has been rollin on tein s.techs for over 3 years now.. on stock shocks.. still rides really nice.. dropped me about 1.2 in the front and about 1 in the back.. i had some camber issues but nothing drastic.. goodyear was able to put it back into specs for me without any aftermarket camber bolts, plates or arms
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Originally Posted by redlude97
do you have a printout? I find this very unlikely since the front camber is not adjustable at all, and my front camber was out of spec from Z h-techs
So....
I'm more confused now then I was before.
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This seems to be the best info I've received from my original query, but can someone send me a link or two, and point me in the correct direction to this kits (ALL that I would need - everything??)
*Maybe I should just order the 350Z OEM Springs and see if the tech's can get it as close to OEM specs as possible (Camber etc...)
Thanks Guys!
-WoW
I'm more confused now then I was before.
In reality there is no way to drop your G without having an issue. The Tein
350Z H-Techs will give you the least amount of drop but then you still have
the choice of getting Toe bolts/adjusters or buying rear tires every year
or two. In the long run it's cheaper to buy the springs and adjusters for the
rear and have it aligned after install....
350Z H-Techs will give you the least amount of drop but then you still have
the choice of getting Toe bolts/adjusters or buying rear tires every year
or two. In the long run it's cheaper to buy the springs and adjusters for the
rear and have it aligned after install....
This seems to be the best info I've received from my original query, but can someone send me a link or two, and point me in the correct direction to this kits (ALL that I would need - everything??)
*Maybe I should just order the 350Z OEM Springs and see if the tech's can get it as close to OEM specs as possible (Camber etc...)
Thanks Guys!
-WoW
Last edited by WhiteonWheat; Sep 6, 2008 at 11:00 AM.
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1/2" drop causes camber to go more negative by 0.41 degrees just as 1" causes a 0.83 degree increase.
Unfortunately as the stock suspension wears the bushings, the natural bending forces add more and more negative camber.
Most vehicles are lucky to still be with oem range at 60-100k with no mods.
Adjustable arms can prolong the need to totally rebuild suspension, just like adjustable shocks can be cost effective.
Unfortunately as the stock suspension wears the bushings, the natural bending forces add more and more negative camber.
Most vehicles are lucky to still be with oem range at 60-100k with no mods.
Adjustable arms can prolong the need to totally rebuild suspension, just like adjustable shocks can be cost effective.
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Originally Posted by Texan1
maybe he meant hardly noticeable on a coupe
btw, are you running z springs rear revised? Did you replace the shocks?
I'm going with z fronts and coupe(non-sport 3 red dots) on the rear. This should give an even drop. Did you consider this?
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i've always wondered why someone would mix front and rear springs off a 350z and "try to" match them.. yea it might fit and give a good looking drop and what not.. but is it totally safe? i would think not... or even order springs made for a 350z and put them on our cars.. again.. yea they might fit and look good.. but are they really goin to perform as good as theyre supposed to? i mean.. the Z to me is a totally different beast.. weight and other specifics are totally different...
i don't think theirs any real, true way to tell if the 350z spring rates and whatnot match without actually taking it to some sorta suspension shop that can actually match them and say ok the 350z springs are perfect for the G (but who the hell can actually do that??).. but then you also gotta put the dampers in to consideration too.. which i'm sure the Z and G's are different... nissan/infiniti didnt just slap on a set of shocks to some springs and call it a day... im pretty sure their was a lot of r&d that these professional engineers put into to it.. like the total curb weight of the car, front to rear weight ratio, also taking passenger weight and misc weight into consideration, damper rebound rate, damper compression rate etc... which i know for a fact that the Z and G are not 110% indentical in most of those departments
correct me if i'm wrong but arent the g35 shocks longer than the z's? i'm sure theirs a reason for that
its so much easier and safer to go with a matched set of springs thats made specifically for your year, make and model.. theirs a reason for that.. that way.. you know for sure the spring rates, the rebound, and progressiveness of the springs are exactly match by a manufacturer that has the tools, technology, and engineers to do the extensive r&d required so you don't have to... i'm pretty sure everyday people don't have the means to do this correctly.. and as long as you go with a reputable manufacturer of course thats been in the suspension business for years and years.. i.e. tein, eibach, h&r, etc. you come out alot better than mixing and matching
but of course.. this is just my opinion... if someone out there can prove to me that the z and g's suspension characteristics are exactly the same then i'll shut up lol
i don't think theirs any real, true way to tell if the 350z spring rates and whatnot match without actually taking it to some sorta suspension shop that can actually match them and say ok the 350z springs are perfect for the G (but who the hell can actually do that??).. but then you also gotta put the dampers in to consideration too.. which i'm sure the Z and G's are different... nissan/infiniti didnt just slap on a set of shocks to some springs and call it a day... im pretty sure their was a lot of r&d that these professional engineers put into to it.. like the total curb weight of the car, front to rear weight ratio, also taking passenger weight and misc weight into consideration, damper rebound rate, damper compression rate etc... which i know for a fact that the Z and G are not 110% indentical in most of those departments
correct me if i'm wrong but arent the g35 shocks longer than the z's? i'm sure theirs a reason for that
its so much easier and safer to go with a matched set of springs thats made specifically for your year, make and model.. theirs a reason for that.. that way.. you know for sure the spring rates, the rebound, and progressiveness of the springs are exactly match by a manufacturer that has the tools, technology, and engineers to do the extensive r&d required so you don't have to... i'm pretty sure everyday people don't have the means to do this correctly.. and as long as you go with a reputable manufacturer of course thats been in the suspension business for years and years.. i.e. tein, eibach, h&r, etc. you come out alot better than mixing and matching
but of course.. this is just my opinion... if someone out there can prove to me that the z and g's suspension characteristics are exactly the same then i'll shut up lol