is 28 pistons over-kill?
#16
Originally Posted by sheplex02
hahahaha!!!! thats not exactly what i was worried about.. but that brings up my point of uselessness.. this car will be driven alot and will see track time and strip time.. i also will be doing long distance rallies..
#20
G3 Motorsports brake pads on OEM rotors performed flawlessly at the track on the G3 G35 coupe track car. I think the driver, Jeff Harrison (NASCAR & Enduro), went through 50+ laps giving people rides in the car and tearing the $hit out of everything. Barely any brake fade...surprised every single member of the DFW G35 club that was there that day.
So yeah...just replacement PADS was sufficient in a heavy duty track session.
http://www.grubbsperformance.com/servlet/Detail?no=3072
So yeah...just replacement PADS was sufficient in a heavy duty track session.
http://www.grubbsperformance.com/servlet/Detail?no=3072
#21
i like that anchor, it's awesome
anyway, be careful about which brake setup you choose. if you get a rotora setup, just remember that you will be stuck with THEIR pads until someone decides to make a compound in their shape. as far as i know, they do not have a standard FMSI number meaning their pads are proprietary.
moog, your buddy may be a pro, but he's just one driver, and if i understand it, on just that one car. i'm no pro, but there is no "end all" brake pad that will suit all applications. you really have to look into your application and find a pad compound suitable for YOU.
there are so many factors to consider, such as where you will drive the car the most often, are you willing to purchase more than one type of brake pad to switch from a street to a track setup (and back), what kind of power are you pushing, what is your vehicle weight, etc.
another misconception is that the more pistons that you have in your caliper, the greater your "braking force" is going to be. this is not the case. auto engineering is not one of my best subjects, but braking force is proportional to the piston area. in other words, unless the piston area of the 8 piston caliper is larger than the piston area of a 4 or 6 piston, then the 8 piston will perform no better. sometimes it could be a worse performer because of the increased flexing that could happen in a caliper because of it's size and/or cheaper material used.
a great reference is the june 2008 issue of grassroots motorsports magazine. let's not even get into brake boosters and master cylinder bore sizes....
anyway, be careful about which brake setup you choose. if you get a rotora setup, just remember that you will be stuck with THEIR pads until someone decides to make a compound in their shape. as far as i know, they do not have a standard FMSI number meaning their pads are proprietary.
moog, your buddy may be a pro, but he's just one driver, and if i understand it, on just that one car. i'm no pro, but there is no "end all" brake pad that will suit all applications. you really have to look into your application and find a pad compound suitable for YOU.
there are so many factors to consider, such as where you will drive the car the most often, are you willing to purchase more than one type of brake pad to switch from a street to a track setup (and back), what kind of power are you pushing, what is your vehicle weight, etc.
another misconception is that the more pistons that you have in your caliper, the greater your "braking force" is going to be. this is not the case. auto engineering is not one of my best subjects, but braking force is proportional to the piston area. in other words, unless the piston area of the 8 piston caliper is larger than the piston area of a 4 or 6 piston, then the 8 piston will perform no better. sometimes it could be a worse performer because of the increased flexing that could happen in a caliper because of it's size and/or cheaper material used.
a great reference is the june 2008 issue of grassroots motorsports magazine. let's not even get into brake boosters and master cylinder bore sizes....
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Originally Posted by n1cK
another misconception is that the more pistons that you have in your caliper, the greater your "braking force" is going to be. this is not the case. auto engineering is not one of my best subjects, but braking force is proportional to the piston area. in other words, unless the piston area of the 8 piston caliper is larger than the piston area of a 4 or 6 piston, then the 8 piston will perform no better. sometimes it could be a worse performer because of the increased flexing that could happen in a caliper because of it's size and/or cheaper material used.
#23
wow very good info!! this is more what i was lookn for!!
well what i think im going to do is just go get a brake service for now and then when i get rim and tire package and suspension system im just gonna go get the OEM brake package (front and rear) from the G37S and get some EBC rotors and pads..
i think it look really good too cuz i have a DG coupe and im getting TENZO type Ms in gunmetal, so the silver calipers will stand out really nice..
well what i think im going to do is just go get a brake service for now and then when i get rim and tire package and suspension system im just gonna go get the OEM brake package (front and rear) from the G37S and get some EBC rotors and pads..
i think it look really good too cuz i have a DG coupe and im getting TENZO type Ms in gunmetal, so the silver calipers will stand out really nice..
#24
Originally Posted by sheplex02
wow very good info!! this is more what i was lookn for!!
well what i think im going to do is just go get a brake service for now and then when i get rim and tire package and suspension system im just gonna go get the OEM brake package (front and rear) from the G37S and get some EBC rotors and pads..
i think it look really good too cuz i have a DG coupe and im getting TENZO type Ms in gunmetal, so the silver calipers will stand out really nice..
well what i think im going to do is just go get a brake service for now and then when i get rim and tire package and suspension system im just gonna go get the OEM brake package (front and rear) from the G37S and get some EBC rotors and pads..
i think it look really good too cuz i have a DG coupe and im getting TENZO type Ms in gunmetal, so the silver calipers will stand out really nice..
#25
#28
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Looks like you want bling more than performance.
I'd ask for brake dist and brake bias data before considering ANY kit. Good luck on getting that info
I'd ask for brake dist and brake bias data before considering ANY kit. Good luck on getting that info