best BBK bang for buck?
My friend's 350Z w/ Brembo and PMU pads, DBA disc and SS lines didn't last long on a track day.
2 pc rotor for the G37 is just a matter of time. Especially the new 370Z came out alraedy. So are other brands of brake pads.
Stainless steel brake line and Project Mu pads are already available for the G37/370Z.
2 pc rotor for the G37 is just a matter of time. Especially the new 370Z came out alraedy. So are other brands of brake pads.
Stainless steel brake line and Project Mu pads are already available for the G37/370Z.
These are words required in order to discuss the subject w/o getting flamed. But since you want to get technical about it. How do you know the OEM brembo set will be fine? Is the oem master indentical to the Gs that don't have them from the factory? What's the brembo bias numbers via the non-brembo units? Since you recommended the brembo, you should have the figures?
You know I don't have bias numbers; no one does except Nissan, so you know you're asking for something that doesn't exist in the public domain. From what I can tell from parts websites and from what I've read here, the master cylinder for the coupes is the same between Brembo and non-Brembo applications, at least up through '07, so the Brembos are an upgrade nearly identical to the way in which Nissan originally equipped some of the coupes.
I like to mod for performance based on quantifiable data, not guesstimates, and when it comes to braking, I definitely want quantifiable data if I'm going far afield of OEM design parameters. Zeckhausen is the only source I have seen so far for actual like-like testing of aftermarket BBK's on a 350Z/G35.
I didn't think you were but then your post was pretty short. I guess all we need to do is find out the p/n for the Akebono equipped Gs and see what that is. If we are going to take the MS bias values out then it's a matter of calculating the bias via the front / rear rotor and piston sizes(and #).
Unless Infiniti did something out of the norm, then this would be "acceptable". At least for an initial comment.
I also agree that Zeckhausen and maybe StopTech are the only two tests that I've seen that are worth anything. Perhaps they will do some work on this new system?
Unless Infiniti did something out of the norm, then this would be "acceptable". At least for an initial comment.
I also agree that Zeckhausen and maybe StopTech are the only two tests that I've seen that are worth anything. Perhaps they will do some work on this new system?
this is not good to hear - the only reason I'm considering OEM Akebono is to have better braking on the track... are you referenceing a particular review or thread post?
Sorry, i should rephrase that statement. The akebonos failed miserably in a track situation, on an FX50S. Not a direct comparison, so take it with a grain of salt, but the behavior of the akebenos described by C&D, especially compared to the other SUV's is somewhat scary
Remember the FX was the lightest of the SUV's.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ff+page-3.html
Although the nismo Z didn't behave much better, but made it to 15 stops with the brembos. Once again, take it with a grain of salt
The FX50S fared even worse. Not only did its brakes give up much sooner than those of the two other SUVs, they did so with little warning. Things were fine after the first six panic stops, with distances hovering around 340 feet. On the seventh stop (in the second test cycle), the pedal travel grew markedly longer and the distance increased to 432 feet. On the eighth, the pedal went to the metal. We held it there, and the Infiniti gradually came to a stop in 473 feet. We tried a few more times, but the car was braking with only half its maximum capability even though we were pushing on the pedal with more than 100 pounds of force. Afterward, we discovered that the rotors were deeply grooved, too. We contacted Infiniti, and the company says it is investigating the problem.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ff+page-3.html
Although the nismo Z didn't behave much better, but made it to 15 stops with the brembos. Once again, take it with a grain of salt
I doubt the oem sedan sport 18s have the clearance for this. Since none of the sedans had the oem brembos, none of the wheels available had much clearance. IMHO.
If the dia clears, I'd say the oem coupe 18 or 19 would work
If the dia clears, I'd say the oem coupe 18 or 19 would work
OEM brembo rear vs OEM Akebono rear:
What im trying to point out is that, yes the rotor diameter is larger, but the braking area does not support the claims of a much larger piston size, despite the size difference of the calipers and rotor. The new calipers seems to have a lot of extra material whereas the Brembo design has had the benefit of being trimmed down over the decade thd design has been in use. The pad area seems to be close to the same, so all you're really getting is a signifigantly higher brake torque leverage.
now theorethically, all things considered equal, the larger Akebono brakes should run a little cooler due to the increased size of the rotors, but at the same point they'll retain heat longer as well compared to 1pc 350Z rotors of a smaller mass (larger mass longer to heat, larger mass longer to cool).
Some more interesting pictures of the akebono:
Dont miss understand me though, I still think for the money, an upgraded OEM brembo system (with used calipers) is a better bargain for performance braking like i said on page-3...but if you want better looks and better braking over your stock system, then fine, go with the akebono setup because I agree, it looks the most ballerest over all of them!
What im trying to point out is that, yes the rotor diameter is larger, but the braking area does not support the claims of a much larger piston size, despite the size difference of the calipers and rotor. The new calipers seems to have a lot of extra material whereas the Brembo design has had the benefit of being trimmed down over the decade thd design has been in use. The pad area seems to be close to the same, so all you're really getting is a signifigantly higher brake torque leverage.
now theorethically, all things considered equal, the larger Akebono brakes should run a little cooler due to the increased size of the rotors, but at the same point they'll retain heat longer as well compared to 1pc 350Z rotors of a smaller mass (larger mass longer to heat, larger mass longer to cool).
Some more interesting pictures of the akebono:
Dont miss understand me though, I still think for the money, an upgraded OEM brembo system (with used calipers) is a better bargain for performance braking like i said on page-3...but if you want better looks and better braking over your stock system, then fine, go with the akebono setup because I agree, it looks the most ballerest over all of them!
I am seriously digging the wheels on the DG coupe in the background of the first two pics...they look like they came from an E46 M3. Love 'em!
