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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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06 setup FTW
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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MY brakes are shot and the stealership wants 600 to do new Front rotors, machine the rear rotors, and then put all new pads on the whole car. What do you guys thing I should do. I was looking into just buying new rotors and getting hawk pads all around then paying a shop to install them but now im not sure what to do.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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$600 isn't horrible, but as an alternative, get Centric premium rotors and OEM pads, and do them yourself, or pay an independent shop to put them on. Should cost less than $600 all in.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by G35fromPA
HPS is a higher temp pad than OEM, and thus requires more heat to work effectively. Cold stops are not the HPS' forte - something that Hawk doesn't tell you when you buy them. Only way to get back to OEM "bite" is to get rid of the Hawks. It's not your rotors or anything else - it's the pads!

Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
This explains it very well, thanks. I just got in a set of HPS and will be installing them next week. How are Project MU's with cold stopping power?
Laws of physics say:
Good cold stops = better bite = softer pad = more dust
Less dust = harder pad = not as good cold stops

Do the 06 brake pads fit right into the 03-04 brembos?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pythonjosh
This explains it very well, thanks. I just got in a set of HPS and will be installing them next week. How are Project MU's with cold stopping power?
Laws of physics say:
Good cold stops = better bite = softer pad = more dust
Less dust = harder pad = not as good cold stops

Do the 06 brake pads fit right into the 03-04 brembos?
I've never used the Project Mu's but people seem to like them as a decent compromise pad, at least from the reviews I've read.

And no '06 pad will fit into the 03-04 Brembo caliper - different shape and size.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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I've never used the Project Mu's but people seem to like them
I wish I had more hands, so I could give them ******* 4 thumbs up!
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by G35fromPA
HPS is a higher temp pad than OEM, and thus requires more heat to work effectively. Cold stops are not the HPS' forte - something that Hawk doesn't tell you when you buy them. Only way to get back to OEM "bite" is to get rid of the Hawks. It's not your rotors or anything else - it's the pads!

Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
I had Hawk HPS front and rear pads on my G35c and they sucked when cold and average at best. Nothing beats the biting power of the brembos when cold or hot. I had the rotors from Brake Pros (Stillen) on the g35c. With the HPS pads, I had to pump the brakes to get it to bite. I'm going to try the Project Mu pads next. The Akebono brakes on my g37 aren't as good as the brembos IMO.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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i have stock 06 pads on stock rotors.. dust isnt too bad and the stopping power is alright tho i wish it was as good as basically any cheepo toyota corolla out there lol
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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I'm very happy with my Project Mu brake pads...far better than Hawk..
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by slizzap
Look at the Project Mu NS pads like others have mentioned. I got tired of the excessive brake dust of the OEM pads and put on Hawk pads. They NEVER had the bite of OEM pads, and almost got me into trouble a couple times. I switched to Project Mu and got the best of both worlds - much reduced brake dust and much improved braking.
Do you have OEM rotors? If so, how are they holding up to those pads?
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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The only reason why I wouldnt want to try these over Hawks is because of the rotor wear... those of you with the Project MU NS, do you have brembo caliper? and how are the rotors holding up?
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Where is the concern about rotor wear about the Project Mu pads coming from? Just curious.

I'm at roughly 65k miles on my 2004 6MT coupe and as far as I can remember I've never done anything with the rotors, and they are OEM. I put the hawks on probably around 35k miles. I think they had about 3/4s life left when I swapped them out for the Project Mu pads which was at around 50k miles...shows how much I liked them :P I know for a fact that I haven't done anything with the rotors since 35k miles since I installed both sets of brake pads myself.
 
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