OEM or Hawk pads
#32
04-22-2009, 03:44 PM
MY brakes are shot and the stealership wants 600 to do new Front rotors, machine the rear rotors, and then put all new pads on the whole car. What do you guys thing I should do. I was looking into just buying new rotors and getting hawk pads all around then paying a shop to install them but now im not sure what to do.
#33
04-22-2009, 05:15 PM
#34
04-24-2009, 10:40 AM
HPS is a higher temp pad than OEM, and thus requires more heat to work effectively. Cold stops are not the HPS' forte - something that Hawk doesn't tell you when you buy them. Only way to get back to OEM "bite" is to get rid of the Hawks. It's not your rotors or anything else - it's the pads!
Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
Laws of physics say:
Good cold stops = better bite = softer pad = more dust
Less dust = harder pad = not as good cold stops
Do the 06 brake pads fit right into the 03-04 brembos?
#35
04-24-2009, 03:33 PM
This explains it very well, thanks. I just got in a set of HPS and will be installing them next week. How are Project MU's with cold stopping power?
Laws of physics say:
Good cold stops = better bite = softer pad = more dust
Less dust = harder pad = not as good cold stops
Do the 06 brake pads fit right into the 03-04 brembos?
Laws of physics say:
Good cold stops = better bite = softer pad = more dust
Less dust = harder pad = not as good cold stops
Do the 06 brake pads fit right into the 03-04 brembos?
And no '06 pad will fit into the 03-04 Brembo caliper - different shape and size.
#36
04-24-2009, 08:26 PM
#37
05-13-2009, 12:52 AM
HPS is a higher temp pad than OEM, and thus requires more heat to work effectively. Cold stops are not the HPS' forte - something that Hawk doesn't tell you when you buy them. Only way to get back to OEM "bite" is to get rid of the Hawks. It's not your rotors or anything else - it's the pads!
Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
Pads are an inherent compromise: If you want great cold stopping power, you're going to have to live with dust and high wear, and some fade. If you want high fade resistance with a bit less dust, you have to give up cold stopping power. There really isn't much of an in-between.
#38
05-13-2009, 01:08 AM
#40
05-19-2009, 01:38 AM
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Look at the Project Mu NS pads like others have mentioned. I got tired of the excessive brake dust of the OEM pads and put on Hawk pads. They NEVER had the bite of OEM pads, and almost got me into trouble a couple times. I switched to Project Mu and got the best of both worlds - much reduced brake dust and much improved braking.
#41
05-19-2009, 01:44 AM
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#42
05-19-2009, 10:29 AM
Where is the concern about rotor wear about the Project Mu pads coming from? Just curious.
I'm at roughly 65k miles on my 2004 6MT coupe and as far as I can remember I've never done anything with the rotors, and they are OEM. I put the hawks on probably around 35k miles. I think they had about 3/4s life left when I swapped them out for the Project Mu pads which was at around 50k miles...shows how much I liked them :P I know for a fact that I haven't done anything with the rotors since 35k miles since I installed both sets of brake pads myself.
I'm at roughly 65k miles on my 2004 6MT coupe and as far as I can remember I've never done anything with the rotors, and they are OEM. I put the hawks on probably around 35k miles. I think they had about 3/4s life left when I swapped them out for the Project Mu pads which was at around 50k miles...shows how much I liked them :P I know for a fact that I haven't done anything with the rotors since 35k miles since I installed both sets of brake pads myself.
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