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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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Well squiddy's. Me thinks you'll all know more soon. Yarr, me personal shame could be ownin these good deal coilovers.

I'll be testin the waters in a couple O'weeks.

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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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Not gonna lie, these probably work fine.

Raceland has been selling adjustable coilovers for years for the sub $350 market. I'd be interested to know the spring rates and more info on them. For $300 it might even be worth it to give them a shot and see if they blow out instantly or work well...
I had rokker coilovers on my jetta when I owned it. (they are made by raceland). They worked fine for what they were, they build quality didn't seem to bad to me but i have never seen a set of 1k+ coils. They were stiff as all could be in that car and I hated the ride but they did go hella low.

I will be sticking with springs over coils in that price range unless I did solid research on spring rates on how they rode.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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i think i gave them promotion
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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The suspicions of low price and unrated quality of these racingfirst coilovers have not discouraged me buying because much of the quality premiums others brands offer may not be in my interest. I'm going cheap on this deal.

I want a controllable lowered look of my G35 sedan. I do not plan to track the AT car and may occasionally "put a smile on me face" by performance stressing weight shifts on the suspension.

How and where I drive:
More important is that I don't suspect I'll find when I open the box that the materials and finish on the parts is negatively impacted by Atlanta, Georgia climate (roads not salted in winter) and the roads in my 99% driving range are some of the best in the world (absence of pot holes).

racingfirst specs:
556 lb/in spring rate +77% over OEM sport. This is average rate for performance coilover.
389 lb/in spring rate which matches 91% of the Rev 1 G35 coupe spring.

Racingfirst's shock dampening is my last concern which I'll work with in trials on my sedan. I'll have 18 set points of which the middle 5 may be my intial test range.

Oil seal durability is what most posters in this thread hope will not pass the test.
I learn over time (Meez private shame; maybe).

The 389 lb/in spring rate though close to Rev 1 coupe OEM rate is 15% softer than most other rear street performance spring rates which range above 450.

So, I think I'm OK with the cheapo selection based on coilover spec's and reading comparisons. The proof will be in the installation and test rides.

Only if for jests let's examine the Ohlins PVC coilovers with similar specified spring rates which are 560/392 for V35 chassis family.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by toro12
Yarrr, Hola
Meez still thinkin swabby. The gunwalls loaded with all 18 cannons ready to shoot.
Arrh, let the sun set once again. Trigger day manana, install day to be determined.

more to come later
Every relpy I read has to be read with the voice of a pirate now..disturbing, but funny
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:44 AM
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Yarr, disturbin, have you noticed that folks readin this thread squint a lot!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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yarr... i've almost forgotten about this 'ere thread. but me pirate voice came back right away the moment i stepped foot in this ship. yarr
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:29 AM
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Aye matey, gives ya nightmares of whales duz it? Me too;
Go fight a shark; tis springs I be needin, comin round the horn on a slow boat.

Ahoy moderator, let me have my own avatar, pleeze. Fairly warn be thee, I say.

Meez can't take it, my private shame is that it is distubin to the posters who know pirate history and the likes. Let's batten down the hatches soon, Aye
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:27 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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as much as I would love a set of cheap coilovers, I would be worried about how these chage the way the car handles.

The factory sport spring setup is ~35% stiffer in the rear, where as these are ~45% stiffer in the front.

I am no suspension guru, but it makes me wonder if the car would understeer with these coils?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by High_Boost
as much as I would love a set of cheap coilovers, I would be worried about how these chage the way the car handles.

The factory sport spring setup is ~35% stiffer in the rear, where as these are ~45% stiffer in the front.

I am no suspension guru, but it makes me wonder if the car would understeer with these coils?
I doubt it. I mean people make their cars purposely stiffer by adding sways. But the only issue is quality build oem>these I just wonder if these would break if u hit a pothole.. And then u would need a new set up cuz they don't offer replacements.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Given a reasonable size wheel width and tire weight selection; which for a G35 sedan is limited in scope without doing camberphycho stuff and body work here is something to consider.
The racingfirst coilover spring rates I gave should ride slightly softer & less bouncy than a late 90's model BMW M3 (E36) which has 6" shorter wheel base than V35 chassis family.

Those M3 models are epic, steer and track like on rails. They all have sways and cross braced heavily.

I can't think that comparison is too harsh if your looking for a sport ride.

I'll let you all know soon as they are installed.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by socialconflicts
I doubt it. I mean people make their cars purposely stiffer by adding sways.
from what I understand, you when you stiffen a particular end of the car, say add a stiffer rear sway, it increases oversteer, if you stiffen the front, like these coils would do, it would increase understeer


Originally Posted by toro12
I can't think that comparison is too harsh if your looking for a sport ride.

I'll let you all know soon as they are installed.
I dont think it will be too harsh, its just the handling balance I was concered about.. I would hate it if it plowed like a civic

either way, I look forward to your review
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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HighBoost; either way remember that this suspension project (to some - penny pinching) for me will be car crazylike fun. LOL

03 G35 sedan is 4% heavier on front springs without me driving the torquey RWD automatic/manumatic. Sedan center of gravity will be lower ~ 1.3" for my shouldered wheels and rolled fender flanges to interact.

Some inherent 350Z like negative camber is unavoidable because of the drop and will help cornering. The rear wheels will have new adjustable toe-arms.

On the new equipment I am (knock on wood) thinking the sedan should be better handling otherwise I wouldn't waste my time and little money. This install and trial will be fun.

I'll learn more about the gamble any enthusiast takes with coilovers mods (dynamic) or lowering springs mods (static) on this cheap $450 tuition.

I'll dampen the shocks so initial weight shift balance, body roll control can be predictable on this equipment, as well as repeatable in the flavor of street riding.
The road feedback to overall control will set a direction for me to dial in the final ride.

During these tests of the cheapos I'll evaluate comfort issues and noise issues. I'll see what can be adjusted to reduce or eliminate whatever is discovered in test.

Understeer differences can only be compared to my (red) 38K mi. sedan sport tuned springs/shock since I'll have no other set-ups for sedan or coupe and those handling dynamics to compare. Anywho, I'll look at that issue too!
 
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