G35 and handling
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G35 and handling
So I am a n00b when it comes to suspension stuff for cars, so I wanted to ask you guys 
My buddy has a new 370z and I get to drive it quite often. I absolutely love it. It feels a lot faster than our cars, but mostly it handles sooo much better.
The whole car feels a lot more stiff in a turn with almost no body roll when comparing it to our cars. In his car I feel a lot safer going at higher speeds through turns I would normal be scared in mine, and I am not even that used to his car.
My question is can anything be done to make our cars handle a lot better/feel more stiff? I got sway bars, which made it better, but it's no where near where I want it to be.
Maybe coilovers and lowering the car? Does that actually help that much with handling?
I hate driving the G after his car, it feels so fat
haha

My buddy has a new 370z and I get to drive it quite often. I absolutely love it. It feels a lot faster than our cars, but mostly it handles sooo much better.
The whole car feels a lot more stiff in a turn with almost no body roll when comparing it to our cars. In his car I feel a lot safer going at higher speeds through turns I would normal be scared in mine, and I am not even that used to his car.
My question is can anything be done to make our cars handle a lot better/feel more stiff? I got sway bars, which made it better, but it's no where near where I want it to be.
Maybe coilovers and lowering the car? Does that actually help that much with handling?
I hate driving the G after his car, it feels so fat
haha
the z weighs a couple hundred pounds less, and that can be hard to take off, but coilovers will definately help the handling.. usually significantly
the other thing to consider are the wheels/tires
the 370's setup is much more aggressive than the g's (assuming you havent changed them yet).. you should swap wheels with your buddy for a day if he will let you and see how the g compares then
the other thing to consider are the wheels/tires
the 370's setup is much more aggressive than the g's (assuming you havent changed them yet).. you should swap wheels with your buddy for a day if he will let you and see how the g compares then
The 370z's tires aren't more aggressive, they're just wider.
It's a small part of the picture though. What you need is a good set of coilovers. What you said about the 370z compared to your G35 is exactly how it was for me when I installed my set.
The stock suspension is pretty weak, but its understandable as they had to build the car for the people you bought them from: older men and menopausal women.
It's a small part of the picture though. What you need is a good set of coilovers. What you said about the 370z compared to your G35 is exactly how it was for me when I installed my set.
The stock suspension is pretty weak, but its understandable as they had to build the car for the people you bought them from: older men and menopausal women.
You can get coilovers, larger sway bars and endlinks along with a camber kit both front and rear but because of our extra weight/height you'll never achieve the Z cornering ability....close but not 100%! I've tried since '04 and SLICK doesn't handle as well as my '92 300ZXTT....
Gary
Gary
First off, the 370 is smaller and lighter than the G. It's got a much stiffer chassis, and a more aggressive suspension, making it much more agile than a G.
To get something close to that without stripping out your interior, a good step would be to stiffen the chassis with tie bars, cross brace, strut bars, etc... a cage would be nice, but I think it's a little excessive.
For suspension, look for a good spring rate. Nothing too soft, but you don't want something too stiff either (although I don't think too many springs are that stiff depending on the struts you are running). As for struts, look for something with a low bound and high rebound. Skip the cheap coilovers as the more affordable ones are just stiff, and you'll adjust both bound and rebound the same when you turn that ****, if you even get any real range of adjustment from them. The decent coilovers start at about 2k a set.
And like some have already stated, great tires are a must.
To get something close to that without stripping out your interior, a good step would be to stiffen the chassis with tie bars, cross brace, strut bars, etc... a cage would be nice, but I think it's a little excessive.
For suspension, look for a good spring rate. Nothing too soft, but you don't want something too stiff either (although I don't think too many springs are that stiff depending on the struts you are running). As for struts, look for something with a low bound and high rebound. Skip the cheap coilovers as the more affordable ones are just stiff, and you'll adjust both bound and rebound the same when you turn that ****, if you even get any real range of adjustment from them. The decent coilovers start at about 2k a set.
And like some have already stated, great tires are a must.
Last edited by dofu; Nov 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM.
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Thanks a lot for the responses guys!
Looks like I am going to be shopping for some coilovers when Spring comes around. Any recommendations? I rather see what is good, than get what everyone else usually goes with.
Yeah tires make a huge difference too. For my last set of tires I had Nitto NT05, now I have Hankook Ventus V12 tires, and I hate them when I compare how they felt compared to the Nittos. As soon as I left the driveway after installing them the car felt so much less responsive.
Looks like I am going to be shopping for some coilovers when Spring comes around. Any recommendations? I rather see what is good, than get what everyone else usually goes with.
Yeah tires make a huge difference too. For my last set of tires I had Nitto NT05, now I have Hankook Ventus V12 tires, and I hate them when I compare how they felt compared to the Nittos. As soon as I left the driveway after installing them the car felt so much less responsive.
DO NOT cheap out on coilovers! The ride quality of your car will suffer. I have Bilstein coilovers and love them they ride decent and the car handles well. They are and exellent street setup.
Here is some good info
https://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-...w-updates.html
Here is some good info
https://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-...w-updates.html
Remember that your chassis can never be too stiff. It can be unbalanced, you may not have enough body roll, and the suspension can be too stiff or too soft, but the chassis itself can never be too stiff.
If you're on a budget, front and rear lower tie bars will be the most effective.
If your G can fit it and you can afford it, a lower cross brace is even better.
Strut bars might not seem to do much, but they still tie the chassis down further improving your handling, although a really good front strut bar setup will include fender braces or be a 3-point connecting to your firewall (two things that are practically non-existent for the G).
If your G can fit it and you can afford it, a lower cross brace is even better.
Strut bars might not seem to do much, but they still tie the chassis down further improving your handling, although a really good front strut bar setup will include fender braces or be a 3-point connecting to your firewall (two things that are practically non-existent for the G).






