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Old May 15, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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if you purhase a car in a state other than the one in which you reside, that out of state dealer will give you the paperwork to take to the dmv for the state in which you do reside. you pay taxes when you title the car in the state in which you reside/licensed.
I don't believe Uncle Sam would let you walk off the dealership without paying taxes immediately. I'm sure it's arranged for neighboring states that the amount gets transferred to another state later through the dealership. As for flying across the country to buy a car and say drive it back, it's hard to see the dealership not charging sales tax on the spot.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Actually, if "here" is Alabaster, Alabama, you are wrong. You are liable for a local use tax in addition to whatever rate you may have paid to an outside agency.
Buy a car and bring it here and find out what happens. Also, here the sales tax is not just based on the state sales tax. I have no idea if this is the case anywhere else but there is also tax based on the county and city as well. I assume everywhere is like that though.

My point was the fact that everyone who has posted in this thread has had different experiences so the OP should check the laws in his/her state as well as the state they are going to purchase in.

Buy a car and bring it to AL and tell me what you pay. Then we will worry about the actual payments made here. The only thing we have ever paid was our regular ole tags.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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What you decide to do (ignore local tax laws) and what you are liable for are 2 different things.
The use tax I cited came directly from the city, your profile lists you as a resident of. Your tags/registration is irrelevant to the issue raised by the OP.

Here is the thing. People come to forums to learn things. This buy/lease forum especially is a place people come to get correct and valid information.
If you are not sure, you should not post. When you make a statement like:
Originally Posted by trey's wife
If you purchase the car, you pay the taxes at the place of purchase.
which is entirely untrue of any place I am familiar with, you should expect people to call you on it. Every place I have ever lived will want to collect taxes on the sale of that vehicle.

As I have never been to Alabaster, I decided to see if indeed, this was the one place with an established state sales tax, electing not to enforce the collection of due tax revenue.

It is not such a place, as I discovered by looking at your local ordinances.

In closing, the advice you gave is not only incorrect for most places in the United States, but also incorrect for your home county. So if you choose to be non-compliant with your local tax laws, that is your business, but for you to advise others to do the same is not in keeping with the nature of this forum.


Originally Posted by trey's wife
Buy a car and bring it here and find out what happens. Also, here the sales tax is not just based on the state sales tax. I have no idea if this is the case anywhere else but there is also tax based on the county and city as well. I assume everywhere is like that though.

My point was the fact that everyone who has posted in this thread has had different experiences so the OP should check the laws in his/her state as well as the state they are going to purchase in.

Buy a car and bring it to AL and tell me what you pay. Then we will worry about the actual payments made here. The only thing we have ever paid was our regular ole tags.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GumboChief
What you decide to do (ignore local tax laws) and what you are liable for are 2 different things.
The use tax I cited came directly from the city, your profile lists you as a resident of. Your tags/registration is irrelevant to the issue raised by the OP.

Here is the thing. People come to forums to learn things. This buy/lease forum especially is a place people come to get correct and valid information.
If you are not sure, you should not post. When you make a statement like:

which is entirely untrue of any place I am familiar with, you should expect people to call you on it. Every place I have ever lived will want to collect taxes on the sale of that vehicle.

As I have never been to Alabaster, I decided to see if indeed, this was the one place with an established state sales tax, electing not to enforce the collection of due tax revenue.

It is not such a place, as I discovered by looking at your local ordinances.

In closing, the advice you gave is not only incorrect for most places in the United States, but also incorrect for your home county. So if you choose to be non-compliant with your local tax laws, that is your business, but for you to advise others to do the same is not in keeping with the nature of this forum.
First of all I have NEVER intentionally ignored tax laws and I take great offense at your unfounded statement as to such. I go to the DMV with my paperwork and I pay what they ask me to pay. I don't give two hoots what it says when you look it up - if they don't ask me to pay something, I have no idea what else I am supposed to pay. I don't go in there and tell them how to do their job. I'd like to know how many people feel the need to look up every little thing they could possibly pay money for and then go tell the DMV that they need to pay it.

As for your smartass comment about people looking for "correct and valid" information then you need to call out anyone who isn't from the state the OP lives in and has bought a car from the state the OP is purchasing from. I stated VERY CLEARLY that the best course the person could take was to contact their state and the state of purchase to find out what the tax liability would be. I gave my experience just as the rest of the people on here gave. Honestly I would never take what ANYONE said on a forum as gospel when it came to the law about anything.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Espresso
I don't believe Uncle Sam would let you walk off the dealership without paying taxes immediately. I'm sure it's arranged for neighboring states that the amount gets transferred to another state later through the dealership. As for flying across the country to buy a car and say drive it back, it's hard to see the dealership not charging sales tax on the spot.
automotive sales tax has nothing to do with uncle sam. it is state regulated and varies in rate and code, state by state. it is not a federal tax. some states require dealerships to collect sales tax at the percentage of the state in which the buyer is licensed and forward it to that states dmv. other states do not require this, but rather require the buyer to pay the taxes when titling and registering their car in the state in which they reside.

edit: i myself hold a maryland state automotive wholesalers license and also licensed to practice law in the state of maryland and d.c..
 

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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Honestly I would never take what ANYONE said on a forum as gospel
Yeah. Especially when it is a person who has advocated negotiating the lowest residual possible on a lease.

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The thing is that you want the lease to be figured with a lower residual.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GumboChief
Yeah. Especially when it is a person who has advocated negotiating the lowest residual possible on a lease.


Since that has nothing to do with this and there were reasons for that line of thought which I stated in the appropriate thread I don't see what it is here for other than to say something about me. If you feel the need to imply something then just *say it* rather than imply it. I personally think you are just trying to be an *******.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Treacherous, thanks for posting the list of docs you needed to register your vehicle in Washington. When I finally decide to buy I plan on going down to CA for a better deal than the local franchise offers.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trey's wife
If you feel the need to imply something then just *say it* rather than imply it.
I thought I was rather clear when I stated:
Originally Posted by GumboChief
People come to forums to learn things. This buy/lease forum especially is a place people come to get correct and valid information.
If you are not sure, you should not post.
But as that was not enough, here is my final post on the matter:

Your repeatedly demonstrated inability to distinguish reasoned opinion, from baseless conjecture, makes any financial advice rendered by you, suspect.

Or, if those words were too big for you to understand-

Your opinion on money matters can't be trusted.

P.S. To answer your question, I brought up your prior leasing comment as further evidence of bad financial advice. Others coming here, seeking help, will form their own opinion as to the relevance of your comments. I only hope they come upon this thread before your info costs them serious money.

Have a nice life.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Alright, I have typed the *entire* of my reasoning in the appropriate thread regarding the lease residual subject. For anyone who questions my logic or lack thereof you can find it here. https://g35driver.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=43

Now, this thread has irritated me so much today that I have called the local tax office to determine what the most current information is. Since my only exact knowledge of the subject is in regard to a lease, let me state that I was correct. If you have leased a car in Alabama (and I *think* most places) the sales tax is paid monthly along with the actual lease payment. Therefore, you would not pay anything at the DMV other than your tag registration. In the case of an outright purchase or financing of a car, then it is correct that you are then liable for the actual sales tax at the time of registration. You get no credit from any tax paid to another state here (no big shock there). I have no problem in stating that I was incorrect in that information. I was basing it on a similar situation but granted not the same situation. That is the main reason that I stated already that the OP needs to check with their state and the state they are purchasing in to get the right information.

All information that you read on a forum about ANYTHING should be to a level suspect. That is the nature of forums. I think most people have no malice intended in giving their personal experiences or reasoning but that does NOT mean that they are always correct in everything.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by trey's wife
Alright, I have typed the *entire* of my reasoning in the appropriate thread regarding the lease residual subject. For anyone who questions my logic or lack thereof you can find it here. https://g35driver.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=43

Now, this thread has irritated me so much today that I have called the local tax office to determine what the most current information is. Since my only exact knowledge of the subject is in regard to a lease, let me state that I was correct. If you have leased a car in Alabama (and I *think* most places) the sales tax is paid monthly along with the actual lease payment. Therefore, you would not pay anything at the DMV other than your tag registration. In the case of an outright purchase or financing of a car, then it is correct that you are then liable for the actual sales tax at the time of registration. You get no credit from any tax paid to another state here (no big shock there). I have no problem in stating that I was incorrect in that information. I was basing it on a similar situation but granted not the same situation. That is the main reason that I stated already that the OP needs to check with their state and the state they are purchasing in to get the right information.

All information that you read on a forum about ANYTHING should be to a level suspect. That is the nature of forums. I think most people have no malice intended in giving their personal experiences or reasoning but that does NOT mean that they are always correct in everything.
Cheryl, I understood completely what you were trying to communicate. In my opinion, you gave the best advice possible, and you gave it early on - ASK FOR YOURSELF IN YOUR STATE.

As for anyone who seeks advice regarding their finances in a forum full of strangers, as GumballChef or whatever suggests, they deserve exactly what they get. If you want to know wheel offset, you're in the right place. If you want financial advice, you're taking your monetary well-being into your own hands.

When in doubt, ask the experts - that is, the people holding the reins in your state. They're the ones you'll be liable to, not some advice giver in a forum. LOL..

Don't let it bug you - those of us who know you fully understand you'd never give erroneous advice. You stated what you thought and then advised to ask the experts. I see no problems with that.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Cheryl, I understood completely what you were trying to communicate. In my opinion, you gave the best advice possible, and you gave it early on - ASK FOR YOURSELF IN YOUR STATE.

As for anyone who seeks advice regarding their finances in a forum full of strangers, as GumballChef or whatever suggests, they deserve exactly what they get. If you want to know wheel offset, you're in the right place. If you want financial advice, you're taking your monetary well-being into your own hands.

When in doubt, ask the experts - that is, the people holding the reins in your state. They're the ones you'll be liable to, not some advice giver in a forum. LOL..

Don't let it bug you - those of us who know you fully understand you'd never give erroneous advice. You stated what you thought and then advised to ask the experts. I see no problems with that.
+1 Bob. Cheryl made things as clear as can be said. I don't understand why some people here need to be so sarcastic and nasty in their comments. I found nothing erroneous in what Cheryl said. I think the lady is owed an apology.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Gumbochief, I suggest you take a step back from this thread. Cheryl has done nothing here but try and help and her posts have been accurate to say the least. There's no need for your demeaning and sarcastic posts.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Gumbochief, I suggest you take a step back from this thread. Cheryl has done nothing here but try and help and her posts have been accurate to say the least. There's no need for your demeaning and sarcastic posts.
Oh, it's GumboChief. I thought it was GumballChef.

My apologies.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Alright, I have typed the *entire* of my reasoning in the appropriate thread regarding the lease residual subject. For anyone who questions my logic or lack thereof you can find it here. https://g35driver.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=43

Now, this thread has irritated me so much today that I have called the local tax office to determine what the most current information is. Since my only exact knowledge of the subject is in regard to a lease, let me state that I was correct. If you have leased a car in Alabama (and I *think* most places) the sales tax is paid monthly along with the actual lease payment. Therefore, you would not pay anything at the DMV other than your tag registration. In the case of an outright purchase or financing of a car, then it is correct that you are then liable for the actual sales tax at the time of registration. You get no credit from any tax paid to another state here (no big shock there). I have no problem in stating that I was incorrect in that information. I was basing it on a similar situation but granted not the same situation. That is the main reason that I stated already that the OP needs to check with their state and the state they are purchasing in to get the right information.

All information that you read on a forum about ANYTHING should be to a level suspect. That is the nature of forums. I think most people have no malice intended in giving their personal experiences or reasoning but that does NOT mean that they are always correct in everything.
Cheryl, don't be put off by one sour apple.......He's obviously way too serious and hasn't appreicated all that you have tried to do here.

Kudos for trying to help and understand that we do appreciate you......-- hugs

C.
 
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