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Help me
I saw the AD on newspaper that saying they got 2005 model for 26,999 and i am gonna check it out!!!
but i am not good at talking so.... can any one help me how to convice the sales dudes??
wish me luck
but i am not good at talking so.... can any one help me how to convice the sales dudes??
wish me luck
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I went today to check it out
they quoted me 30,000
for 2004 Premium and sport package and it had 30,000 mile on it.
i told them 'no way that i am playing price!' and told them i want it for 27,000
they didn't say anything but skip to next step, which was finacing.... they gave me 8.25% for 5 years which comes to 616 a month
yup 616 dollars i mean american greens!!!
i told them no and i was trying to leave
the sales dude runs out and he asked me what i want for it
i told him i want the car 500 a month for five years..
he was keep trying to keep me the building but i told them give me a call
and he called
telling me that he will do it 500 but for 6 years....
i laugh at him told him to sell it to other buyers.....
do you think i made a right choice??
i mean dealer was slow no ones there and sales dude is not getting enough sell..
should i wait them to call me again??
they quoted me 30,000
for 2004 Premium and sport package and it had 30,000 mile on it.
i told them 'no way that i am playing price!' and told them i want it for 27,000
they didn't say anything but skip to next step, which was finacing.... they gave me 8.25% for 5 years which comes to 616 a month
yup 616 dollars i mean american greens!!!
i told them no and i was trying to leave
the sales dude runs out and he asked me what i want for it
i told him i want the car 500 a month for five years..
he was keep trying to keep me the building but i told them give me a call
and he called
telling me that he will do it 500 but for 6 years....
i laugh at him told him to sell it to other buyers.....
do you think i made a right choice??
i mean dealer was slow no ones there and sales dude is not getting enough sell..
should i wait them to call me again??
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May I suggest that you first figure out which car you want, might it be new or used and sedan or coupe(couldnt tell from your post) before you walk into a dealer's lot, if you want used? find out the pricing are like around your area, try sites like KBB.com, autotrader.com...ect and then find out what kind of financing you can get with your credit history, if you havent gotten a car loan recently, I will try to get pre-approved first, from place like E-loan, landingtree or your local bank...ect, and see what kind of rates you can get. So when you do actually walk into a dealership? you are armed with most confidence(informed) and would not let the sale's ppl led you down the worng path...Dont get me wrong, not like sale's ppl are bad, its just their job is to make as much money for themselfs as possible, which is excatly oppsite of what you want. 
Let's look at your deal...they quoted you 616/mos, at 8.25% which the amount financed is 30200! and if you did get your way, at 27000 which I am assuming that is out of door price and no money down, the payment on it would be 550.69/mos. I will try to lower the interest rate down to around 6~7% range, of course I dont know your credit history or score, but most of ppl are getting 5~5.5%...ish on the new car loan, and then figure out what kind price of that car are going for in your area, if you check out KBB.com? I would pricing it somewhere between private party value and trade-in value, but that just me tho...Good luck with your purchase!
Let's look at your deal...they quoted you 616/mos, at 8.25% which the amount financed is 30200! and if you did get your way, at 27000 which I am assuming that is out of door price and no money down, the payment on it would be 550.69/mos. I will try to lower the interest rate down to around 6~7% range, of course I dont know your credit history or score, but most of ppl are getting 5~5.5%...ish on the new car loan, and then figure out what kind price of that car are going for in your area, if you check out KBB.com? I would pricing it somewhere between private party value and trade-in value, but that just me tho...Good luck with your purchase!
there are dealerships out there that will say a price but you won't get it unless you finance for a certain percentage and so forth. just be careful with your shopping and look at the fine print.
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I am trying to get USED (Pre Owned)
I am going to make 6,000 dollars on down payment
Maybe loan from other places they got better apr rate like it was 6.3% i think
Its 2004 Premium Package with Sports tune
it has 27,150 miles on it
condition was exellent (I am sure dealer Fixed little things like paint etc.)
i check the KBB the trade value was $27,600
KBB the Private value was $30,585
P.S. Here is My wanted car online... over priced T.T
http://autotrader.com/dealers/dda/de...r_id=193226970
I am going to make 6,000 dollars on down payment
Maybe loan from other places they got better apr rate like it was 6.3% i think
Its 2004 Premium Package with Sports tune
it has 27,150 miles on it
condition was exellent (I am sure dealer Fixed little things like paint etc.)
i check the KBB the trade value was $27,600
KBB the Private value was $30,585
P.S. Here is My wanted car online... over priced T.T
http://autotrader.com/dealers/dda/de...r_id=193226970
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Lets assuming you get that car for 28k includes the minor fees with 6% sale's tax is 29680 minues the 6k down, you are financing 23680 with 6.3% for 5 years the payment is 461.11 for 60 mos...that just give you some idea of what kinda payment you are looking at...the value of the car drops nearly 2k form "excellent" to "good"...
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Well, You must've forgot to mention about the down payment to them, cus even at 30k with 6% tax and 8.25% rate the monthly payment is 526, so I dont see how they would let you walk with only 26 bucks difference which is only 1.2k less, either way 30k miles is kinda high anyways...
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Patience..
There are 32 Infiniti dealers in the US. Each one has a telephone.
If you are willing to travel to get the best deal for you... then all you need do is call them; tell them specifically what you want (and whether or not you are flexible about the options), and tell them what you are willing to pay (price for the car - not what you're willing to pay monthly).
Do your homework. Ascertain the MSRP and the likely invoice cost (try www.edmunds.com or www.intellichoice.com , etc..) and determine what amount between the MSRP and invoice price you are willing to pay.
If you must get a loan, shop the loan first (now that you know your price). Keep in mind the state taxes, title fees, etc... you'll be responsible for; and, check on the vehicle insurance costs.
When you contact or visit the dealers, you'll already know exactly what you want, what you are willing to pay, and you'll have points of comparison readily available (having already researched loan opportunities) to critically assess any offered dealer financing.
If you travel a significant distance to acquire the car, add the cost of such travel to your computations when you compare deals as offered by different dealers.
Dealers would rather work with informed and prepared customers who understand that the goal is a good deal for the buyer and a fair profit for the dealer. Folks who are less than well informed, and/or not really prepared tend to find the process somewhat frustrating, intimidating, and unpleasant. They'll most often leave without a deal - and may not return. This is not good for the dealer or the potential customer.
Bottom line - the more you learn, the more you know, the more you understand the process... the happier you'll be with the final result.
That'll hold for life in general.
If you are willing to travel to get the best deal for you... then all you need do is call them; tell them specifically what you want (and whether or not you are flexible about the options), and tell them what you are willing to pay (price for the car - not what you're willing to pay monthly).
Do your homework. Ascertain the MSRP and the likely invoice cost (try www.edmunds.com or www.intellichoice.com , etc..) and determine what amount between the MSRP and invoice price you are willing to pay.
If you must get a loan, shop the loan first (now that you know your price). Keep in mind the state taxes, title fees, etc... you'll be responsible for; and, check on the vehicle insurance costs.
When you contact or visit the dealers, you'll already know exactly what you want, what you are willing to pay, and you'll have points of comparison readily available (having already researched loan opportunities) to critically assess any offered dealer financing.
If you travel a significant distance to acquire the car, add the cost of such travel to your computations when you compare deals as offered by different dealers.
Dealers would rather work with informed and prepared customers who understand that the goal is a good deal for the buyer and a fair profit for the dealer. Folks who are less than well informed, and/or not really prepared tend to find the process somewhat frustrating, intimidating, and unpleasant. They'll most often leave without a deal - and may not return. This is not good for the dealer or the potential customer.
Bottom line - the more you learn, the more you know, the more you understand the process... the happier you'll be with the final result.
That'll hold for life in general.
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I agree with ironmike. I've been toying with the idea of a G and when I called the internet sales people, told them exactly what I wanted, and how much I was willing to pay, 3 different people found the car I wanted and agreed to my price (2% over invoice for '06 6MT). I'm going to pick it up Tuesday. Also have your financing pre-arranged. Go to E-Loan or Capital One Auto Finance. Both will approve you in just a matter of minutes so that gives you more bargaining power when you go in.
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From: Modesto, CA
Originally Posted by nokimchi2
no the dealer quote me 616 dollars a month
they are trying to sell the car almost 32000 and this is washington so the tax is 8.8%.
and he wont trying to drop the price....
they are trying to sell the car almost 32000 and this is washington so the tax is 8.8%.
and he wont trying to drop the price....
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Originally Posted by ironmike
There are 32 Infiniti dealers in the US. Each one has a telephone.
If you are willing to travel to get the best deal for you... then all you need do is call them; tell them specifically what you want (and whether or not you are flexible about the options), and tell them what you are willing to pay (price for the car - not what you're willing to pay monthly).
Do your homework. Ascertain the MSRP and the likely invoice cost (try www.edmunds.com or www.intellichoice.com , etc..) and determine what amount between the MSRP and invoice price you are willing to pay.
If you must get a loan, shop the loan first (now that you know your price). Keep in mind the state taxes, title fees, etc... you'll be responsible for; and, check on the vehicle insurance costs.
When you contact or visit the dealers, you'll already know exactly what you want, what you are willing to pay, and you'll have points of comparison readily available (having already researched loan opportunities) to critically assess any offered dealer financing.
If you travel a significant distance to acquire the car, add the cost of such travel to your computations when you compare deals as offered by different dealers.
Dealers would rather work with informed and prepared customers who understand that the goal is a good deal for the buyer and a fair profit for the dealer. Folks who are less than well informed, and/or not really prepared tend to find the process somewhat frustrating, intimidating, and unpleasant. They'll most often leave without a deal - and may not return. This is not good for the dealer or the potential customer.
Bottom line - the more you learn, the more you know, the more you understand the process... the happier you'll be with the final result.
That'll hold for life in general.
If you are willing to travel to get the best deal for you... then all you need do is call them; tell them specifically what you want (and whether or not you are flexible about the options), and tell them what you are willing to pay (price for the car - not what you're willing to pay monthly).
Do your homework. Ascertain the MSRP and the likely invoice cost (try www.edmunds.com or www.intellichoice.com , etc..) and determine what amount between the MSRP and invoice price you are willing to pay.
If you must get a loan, shop the loan first (now that you know your price). Keep in mind the state taxes, title fees, etc... you'll be responsible for; and, check on the vehicle insurance costs.
When you contact or visit the dealers, you'll already know exactly what you want, what you are willing to pay, and you'll have points of comparison readily available (having already researched loan opportunities) to critically assess any offered dealer financing.
If you travel a significant distance to acquire the car, add the cost of such travel to your computations when you compare deals as offered by different dealers.
Dealers would rather work with informed and prepared customers who understand that the goal is a good deal for the buyer and a fair profit for the dealer. Folks who are less than well informed, and/or not really prepared tend to find the process somewhat frustrating, intimidating, and unpleasant. They'll most often leave without a deal - and may not return. This is not good for the dealer or the potential customer.
Bottom line - the more you learn, the more you know, the more you understand the process... the happier you'll be with the final result.
That'll hold for life in general.
...and he is looking for an used G so MSRP and Invoice dont really matter that much here.That is very true, Dealer(closer)would much rather work with shopper whos well informed, cus he or she know that you are serious about purchase a car and willing spend their time to negotiate with you, and know you just want an fair deal and not looking for an unattainable deal.