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Old 12-19-2007 | 11:03 AM
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Question about Ontario Vacation Pay

Hello Gentlemen (and ladies..)

I'm having trouble understanding our vacation pay laws here in Ontario. Two years ago I moved to a US company that has very few Canadian employee (all are sales, and all work out of home in various parts of Canada).

Thinking back to my income in 2006 and 2007, I realized that this was the first job I ever took where I never received either (a) a separate cheque for vacation pay or (b) had a separate line in my pay stub with the title 'vacation pay accrual' . Perhaps it was because I always worked jobs where the bonus/commission income was always about 80% of my pay, whereas this current job and all my employees have it as reversed.

I ran this by our HR and Finance departments. I wanted to make sure myself and my employee's were getting paid correctly. They came back to me, saying everything is kosher.

Normally, with any company I would take their word on it, but the company I work for has a history of not being 100% on matters like this when it comes to foreign countries.

Does anyone have any resources on where I could find out more info on vacation pay besides the Ministry's website? The info I found was a little broad and not so concrete in my mind. Perhaps I was on the wrong pages.

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Old 12-19-2007 | 12:36 PM
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You aren't clear on what is happening with vacation pay for you. I am only familiar with the methods you describe.
 
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Old 12-19-2007 | 02:50 PM
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Oh... I must have left out a sentence or two.

I'm not receiving any vacation pay. At all. My pay stub lists my base salary, divided by 12, and minus all deductions and taxes. I get a bonus that come with a separate check.

It's my understanding that you should receive a minimum of 4% of your base salary when you take your vacation.
 
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Old 12-19-2007 | 05:37 PM
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Hmmm. That is odd if you are considered a full time employee and don't have some kind of contract saying differently. However it would work fine if you continued to be paid vacation pay when you were off.

Employers can pay the vacation pay out @4% or applicable rate on each pay. This is how I do it and it means the person will not receive pay during their vacation time off. However it clearly shows the separate vacation payout on each stub.

Have you reviewed the actual labour regulations? Here in NS it is an easy downloadable file and the act is fairly straightforward.
 
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Old 12-20-2007 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by link91
Oh... I must have left out a sentence or two.

I'm not receiving any vacation pay. At all. My pay stub lists my base salary, divided by 12, and minus all deductions and taxes. I get a bonus that come with a separate check.

It's my understanding that you should receive a minimum of 4% of your base salary when you take your vacation.
i'm also confused over everything your asking/saying.

in ontario, an employer must pay at least 4% of the wages earned during the period the vacation is given. unless you work for a really stingy company u should be getting all 100% of your earned salary for the week(s) u take off and are entitled to (which in ontario is a minimum of 10 biz days/year).

it sounds like this is exactly what your getting at your company.. they're simply just not displaying the wages given to u as vacation pay within your stub.

for example.. if i take a week off from work for vacation .. i'm basically getting the same cheque for the week except my pay stub will say 'vacation' instead of 'salary'. to be honest, it could say 'hebegebe' for all i care as long as i get the money owed to me.
 
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Old 12-20-2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by giddyup69
i'm also confused over everything your asking/saying.

in ontario, an employer must pay at least 4% of the wages earned during the period the vacation is given. unless you work for a really stingy company u should be getting all 100% of your earned salary for the week(s) u take off and are entitled to (which in ontario is a minimum of 10 biz days/year).

it sounds like this is exactly what your getting at your company.. they're simply just not displaying the wages given to u as vacation pay within your stub.

for example.. if i take a week off from work for vacation .. i'm basically getting the same cheque for the week except my pay stub will say 'vacation' instead of 'salary'. to be honest, it could say 'hebegebe' for all i care as long as i get the money owed to me.

You may be right about that. I was taking it that when he goes to take vacation he isn't getting paid at all. Otherwise I can't see what the problem is either.
 
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Old 12-20-2007 | 01:41 PM
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seems pretty much the same as in qc. i don't get paid vacation, despite it being showed on my pay slip, HR is too lazy to do the paper work so i just get my straight salary during the 2 weeks. (i can also imagine the work i would cause since i take my vacation as every monday from victoria day to labour day (more or less, may be 1 or 2 worked)), sounds like something similar, unless you are actually not getting paid for those couple of weeks...
 
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