Yup, I plan to PM him when we settle on a date, maybe he'll even come down with a few.

EDIT: PMed, I'll let you know what he says. Anyone else for GG?

 

hey Swivel man, ain't you from Calgary??

how do we do the group buy thing if we are in different cities?!

 

No, there is no notable difference. Throttle response might be a tiny bit better but no diff in power. Make your own set. My 5 wire one cost me $40 to make and an hour or less to install.

 

Yep, I was responding to FX'd and his suggestion to get a group buy going at our upcoming (hopefully) Alberta meet.

 

I just read this thread and I guess I need to clarify a few things.

The 10 wire System takes approximately 22 feet to manufacture. At retail, Scosche EFX cable costs anywhere from $5.50 to $8.00 per foot, and the solid copper lugs of the quality I use are $1.50 each at retail. I had one Auto Stereo Installer that ordered a GroundingGear® System for his personal G35 in the US ask for the source of my lugs as he was not able to source his own. Not sure what other wire brands and lugs cost, but GroundingGear Ltd is not able to compromise on quality as we manufacture and supply commercially. Based on a lot of R&D, we've found that the material and quality as well as manufacture process can and does make a difference!

Basically, as a manufacturer, our dealership agreement prevents us from selling direct as this would undercut their pricing at retail which would of course be very upsetting to them. To minimize issues, we provide "R&D" Systems in exchange for feedback and promo consideration, and so far most dealers accept this arrangement reluctantly, though we've lost a few over the years as they simply cannot compete on prices. R&D pricing is approximately wholesale cost in Canada plus S&H which is considerably less than MSRP.

Due to trade considerations and differences, even the Metra Double Din kit that I purchased for my G35 was less than 1/2 the price shipped from a retailer in the US than I was able to obtain at Canadian Wholesale Cost in Canada!

These same trade differences make our US R&D pricing (increased as of May 1st) shipped to the US structure slightly lower, but must be shipped to a US address. MSRP retail pricing is approximately the same both sides of the border so there are no complaints of pricing inequity. I could provide you with a System for US MSRP, however this would be higher than CDN R&D pricing, or you could have me ship to a US address at current US R&D pricing, and you could have them ship back to you.

If you factor in the costs and retail considerations, I believe you might better understand why my business manager has never been very pleased with providing R&D Systems. Yesterday I found out that a member here from Texas ordered by mistake, the wrong System for his '07 G35 Coupe and this will cost me about $60 for shipping to correct the mistake which I feel I must do to maintain Customer Relations and satisfaction. BTW, does anyone with a '07+ G35/G37 want a Red System at a great price shipped directly to them from TX on my dime?

 

so can you tell us what the price is now for Canadians?
do you accept group buy?

 

Thanks for chiming in, Gord. Guys, I think what he's saying is if you get your GG thru 'Driver you are already getting a smokin' deal just for writing up your opinions and experience about it.

 

i got the Stillen grounding kit in conjuntion w/the HKS DLI-II ignition amp and i couldn't be more happy.

 

Gordee's kit is top notch, I noticed better AT response and smoother acceleration. Not sure if I got any fuel savings but definitely didn't lose anything in fuel usage.

 

Grounding kits are great , does every car need them , not a chance.
It is to reestablish the proper flow through a new earthing system for the applied parts.
If you car is 3 years or newer their is no use of a ground kit except cosmetics. As wires age they become brittle and loose their conductivity and start to have a resistance.

What makes a ground kit good or any use .
It allows the cars sensors to get full voltage which helps them be more specific with responses to the ecu causing it to react and run faster. Think of it like a 20 year old and a 60 year old in the sack. They both get the job done .
I love my kit which i made for about $40 with phoenix gold wires and crimped ends. It took me an hour to do the major points , engine X3 block and both heads, battery ,alternator , chassis , tranny .