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Old 12-02-2008, 06:16 AM
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That is complete mis-information. Back in the day I had seen oil filter analysis being done on many different filters, including fram, different OEM nissan filters, etc. The materials being used for the anti drain back valves, endcaps, etc, varied as well as the area of actual filter material. I clearly remember Fram making a sub-par filter in comparison to the rest. After doing my research, the only filter that I will use with a VQ motor is the Japanese built 15208-9E000 filter (the one used for the first generation VQ30DE motors).
Interesting, so where does one get some?
 
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I use Amsoil summer and winter, but I don't see any downside to the QS winter blend, especially at that price. Just use a good filter: Wix/Napa Gold/Amsoil. Not a Fram.
Where do you buy Amsoil in Calgary?
 
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:31 AM
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Where do you buy Amsoil in Calgary?
From me, I'm a dealer.
 
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Where did you "hear" that?
If you open one up you'll see the construction is almost the same as a Fram filter. I think the main downfall is the cardboard end caps. A quality filter will have metal end caps.
 
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If you open one up you'll see the construction is almost the same as a Fram filter. I think the main downfall is the cardboard end caps. A quality filter will have metal end caps.
They aren't as close as you think.

here is a cutaway of Nissan part # 15208-9E000 vs a Fram:


The full comparison with more cut-away pics can be found here:
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/515
 
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kingrukus
They aren't as close as you think.

The full comparison with more cut-away pics can be found here:
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/515
Interesting read, thanks.
 
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:41 AM
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If you open one up you'll see the construction is almost the same as a Fram filter. I think the main downfall is the cardboard end caps. A quality filter will have metal end caps.
Have a look at the post from kingrukus.
 
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Originally Posted by kingrukus
They aren't as close as you think.

here is a cutaway of Nissan part # 15208-9E000 vs a Fram:


The full comparison with more cut-away pics can be found here:
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/515

Thanks for posting. That filter isn't the standard one you get when asking for an OEM filter at the parts desk. Once I learned the difference my subsequent replacements are the 000. It's more expensive. I have since used Mobil1 and am now onto Wix with easier availability.
 
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Interesting, so where does one get some?

Your Nissan/Infiniti dealer will carry that model filter.
 
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kingrukus
They aren't as close as you think.

here is a cutaway of Nissan part # 15208-9E000 vs a Fram:


The full comparison with more cut-away pics can be found here:
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/515
That's not OEM though is it? I thought the OEM filters had model number 15208-65F00 on them. Here are some pics where you can see how similar it is to a Fram:

http://linkbee.com/EJUO
 
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Originally Posted by nibble
That's not OEM though is it? I thought the OEM filters had model number 15208-65F00 on them. Here are some pics where you can see how similar it is to a Fram:

http://linkbee.com/EJUO
It is a different filter that can also work with the VQ, it is the filter that I use. And thank you for posting that link, it shows exactly why I do not use the 15208-65F00.
 
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^several years ago I priced both filters and there was about a $4.00 difference between the 2 Nissan filters.
 
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Originally Posted by kingrukus
They aren't as close as you think.
Ok you made me a believer that all filters are not the same...

Now....Example: If car A uses FRAM synthetic filters and any brand synthetic motor oil compared to Car B that ONLY uses OEM filter and Mobil 1 oil.

Will car B last longer, run better, faster etc… than car A?
 
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Originally Posted by gcoupe_toronto
Ok you made me a believer that all filters are not the same...

Now....Example: If car A uses FRAM synthetic filters and any brand synthetic motor oil compared to Car B that ONLY uses OEM filter and Mobil 1 oil.

Will car B last longer, run better, faster etc… than car A?
I'd say it has a better chance of lasting longer. There are a lot of other factors to vehicle life/performance etc.
 
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Originally Posted by gcoupe_toronto
Ok you made me a believer that all filters are not the same...

Now....Example: If car A uses FRAM synthetic filters and any brand synthetic motor oil compared to Car B that ONLY uses OEM filter and Mobil 1 oil.

Will car B last longer, run better, faster etc… than car A?
Would you use a condom that has a poor CR rating?
I mean it would still protect ....right?
 
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