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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Question about a speeding ticket

Hey guys,
Well, this morning was sort of a lucky day...sort of...had a question for you guys.

I got caught going pretty fast...Almost impound your car type of fast.

The cop was a cool guy, gave me a blasting, but really showed me some mercy at the end , and handing me a majorly reduced fine of 25km/h over (yup, majorly).

His only condition: "I'm giving you a huge break, I expect you to pay this fine, but if I see you in court, I'm going to ask to have the original clocked speed ammended (added) to your ticket".

So I'm wondering, is this possible?
Can my ticket be increased in court if I go to fight it and he appears that day?
Can he really get the judge/prosecutor to increase my fine?

What do you guys think, should I just consider myself lucky and pay it...or try fighting it?

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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If I was in your shoes I would just count my blessings, pay the ticket and move on. Considering he could very well have charged you with the real speed you were going (which could very well have damaged your insurance, etc.), paying a 25kmover ticket seems to be where you lucked out. Whether you can fight it or not in court should be irrelevant - the fact is, you KNOW you were going that fast, and you got away with it based on the sympathy of the cop - going to court with the lowered ticket is just disrespectful in my opinion.

Watch your speed!
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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The answer to your question about bringing the original speed into court is YES they can. It happened to a friend of mine that was in a very similar situation! Just pay it and move past it. Slow it down a bit, or buy a geo metro
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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What if you get lazer'd and the cop's give you a ticket. Then 2 weeks later you get a letter in the mail from the cop saying "I'm re-issuing the ticket becuase I made a mistake on it"

What can I do??
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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I went to court and had a HUGE 89 in a 35 in the City limits and a wreckless driving.
The judge threw out the wreckless driving ($800 min.) and upped the speeding from $200 to over $800. After i lost my license and paid fines and probation, I had $1200 into that speending incident.

I'm glad he didn't stop me over the hill. I was doing over 110mph.... i had slowed down coming into the City..

It was 3 am and i had to be up at 7am.... after working 36 hours without a nap.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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eyz: I agree with it being disrespectful to fight it, after all it was a huge break, the guy was A+ cool, I do get that. As for damaging insurance, pretty much any ticket does that nowadays, I just wanted to know options, if any. I am defintiely leaning on paying it.

CDN_G35: No geo for me buddy, I'll take the slow down option. So did they hit your buddy with a higher fine (changed the ticket) or did the cop just mention it?

zeadlots: imagine that? getting a letter, that would be the "ultimate suxx"
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jwrape
i went to court and had a huge 89 in a 35 in the city limits and a wreckless driving.
The judge threw out the wreckless driving ($800 min.) and upped the speeding from $200 to over $800. After i lost my license and paid fines and probation, i had $1200 into that speending incident.

I'm glad he didn't stop me over the hill. I was doing over 110mph.... I had slowed down coming into the city..

It was 3 am and i had to be up at 7am.... After working 36 hours without a nap.
ouch
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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I don't know the exact speed you were doing, but considering you were almost "impound" fast, I would think there would be a significant difference in insurance costs - although I'm not sure. I would just think that 25km over would do less to your insurance then whatever speed you were doing. You know your own situation better than any of us do - so go about it the way you feel is most appropriate.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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^ i agree with you, this would definitely have less impact. think i'll just bite the bullet and pay it, call it a day.

i apreciate everyone's thoughts
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Pay it. If you go to court and the Officer noted your real speed in his notes the Judge can/will charge you on the original speed. If there is no note on the ticket which you can get a copy of before the trial by asking for disclosure from the prosecutor (after you get a court date ). If no notation they cannot up the charge to the original speed, no proof.
So, if you ask for a court date, get disclosure and the notes are there, pay. If no notes you can take your chances. Depends on if you feel lucky. BTW you might screw the next guy this Officer stops ...... and it might be you.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Yes, he absolutely can.. and they will throw the book at you..

Honestly,
If you got caught at nearly 50km over.. count your blessings and pay the ticket.
You would be a complete ID10T to push it...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Thanks guys, paying it is defintely my next course of action.

And whatacar, thanks for the info about disclosure on the notes, I didn't know you could ask for that. I'm sure that bit of knowledge will help out in the future, but yes for now, i'm counting my blessings.

And yes, I'd be an ID1OT (purposely misspelled) to push my luck!
 
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whatacar
Pay it. If you go to court and the Officer noted your real speed in his notes the Judge can/will charge you on the original speed. If there is no note on the ticket which you can get a copy of before the trial by asking for disclosure from the prosecutor (after you get a court date ). If no notation they cannot up the charge to the original speed, no proof.
So, if you ask for a court date, get disclosure and the notes are there, pay. If no notes you can take your chances. Depends on if you feel lucky. BTW you might screw the next guy this Officer stops ...... and it might be you.
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Go to court and do what whatacar says! Don't just pay it!

Cops are full of BS with their "i will give you a break and lower the ticket but don't go to court" speech. You know what this is all about... money collection, they just want to collect the fine and by telling people that it often works.

It is very unlikely the cop had your original speed in his notes... very very unlikely!

Also, don't feel guilty about "screwing" over the nice cop who gave you a break. Again, go to court!

That's just my opinion. I'd go to court no matter how small of a ticket it was.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by G35fromTO
It is very unlikely the cop had your original speed in his notes... very very unlikely!
The second day I had my G I got stopped on the HWY doing 160 in an 80. This was before our new speeding laws were in effect.
Short story was .... I was able to state my case and the officer took pity on me or believed my story. he wrote me up for 15 over. I asked for a court date, got disclosure and saw that in his notes he wrote I was going 160. Spoke to a lawyer and gladly paid the fine.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Your best option is to get a traffic laywer so he can take care of it for you
 
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