Federal Election
Canada needs a change....even if the conservatives struggle for a while, mess a few things up....as long as they are not stealing from me (and getting caught) I can live with the conservatives. The liberals have been in power for too long of a run, and think they can do whatever they like with that power.
My vote is for anyone who isnt Liberal, maybe if they sit on the other side for a while they might get some incentive to clean out the dirty parts of their party.
My vote is for anyone who isnt Liberal, maybe if they sit on the other side for a while they might get some incentive to clean out the dirty parts of their party.
hard to add anything of interest after reading everyone's comments. i've been voting liberal the last few times simply because their policies made the most sense to me. but i cannot condone their actions lately and it's really been pissing me off. that's why i'm voting blue this time around. usual_suspect and telegram had some great points earlier. what i find really surprising is that the liberal government can squander sooo much of our hard-earned dollars away and noone really gives a rats azz about it ... nor are any severe penalties exchanged. can u imagine if this happened in a private or public company?? how different are they to the martha stewart's? the conrad black's? and all the enron types in between?? so sad really when u think about it.... i guess there's no such thing as accountability in government
perhaps an ethics course should be mandatory for anyone going into politics with it being re-taught every six months or so.
perhaps an ethics course should be mandatory for anyone going into politics with it being re-taught every six months or so.
Originally Posted by radjack79
Canada needs a change....even if the conservatives struggle for a while, mess a few things up....as long as they are not stealing from me (and getting caught) I can live with the conservatives. The liberals have been in power for too long of a run, and think they can do whatever they like with that power.
My vote is for anyone who isnt Liberal, maybe if they sit on the other side for a while they might get some incentive to clean out the dirty parts of their party.
My vote is for anyone who isnt Liberal, maybe if they sit on the other side for a while they might get some incentive to clean out the dirty parts of their party.
Running a "corruption free" government is a little like trying to coach a pro hockey team that won't take a single penalty all season - a noble objective, but unlikely to happen. The Liberals haven't done it, no government before them has done it (in any country, anywhere), and no party running in this election will do it either, no matter what they say. I'm not suggesting that screw-ups be tolerated, just trying to keep things in perspective.
First off, Mike Harris did exactly what he said he was going to do (and got blasted for it). The first Dalton did when he came into power is state what promises he wouldn't fulfill.
I met Stephen Harper, and sat through a press conference. Believe me when I tell you he is not in any way "creepy". Also, he hasn't been given a chance to be deemed untrustworthy. Super intelligent guy, and quite witty. Let us not be naive enough to think that the media doesn't play a role in how someone is portrayed. Because of his improved relations with the media (much more media savvy now) Stephen Harper has recently been portrayed in a better light. Also, $1200 per child under the age of 6 (I beleive six) does not net $100 after tax. And for those people who think he has a creepy disposition----I will take that any day over someone who represents a party that feels his party has been "exonerated" of wrong doing.
What bs.(will we really fall for that?). Anyhow, just my continued take on things. These guys all love our country, but its time for better government.
I met Stephen Harper, and sat through a press conference. Believe me when I tell you he is not in any way "creepy". Also, he hasn't been given a chance to be deemed untrustworthy. Super intelligent guy, and quite witty. Let us not be naive enough to think that the media doesn't play a role in how someone is portrayed. Because of his improved relations with the media (much more media savvy now) Stephen Harper has recently been portrayed in a better light. Also, $1200 per child under the age of 6 (I beleive six) does not net $100 after tax. And for those people who think he has a creepy disposition----I will take that any day over someone who represents a party that feels his party has been "exonerated" of wrong doing.
What bs.(will we really fall for that?). Anyhow, just my continued take on things. These guys all love our country, but its time for better government.
Originally Posted by PDT
I honestly don't trust Harper.
I've always voted Liberal, and will continue voting Liberal!
I've always voted Liberal, and will continue voting Liberal!
I find this hard to believe that you can trust Martin more than you can trust Harper. If it was an axe murderer running the opposition, I still think I would rather give him a chance over Martins Liberals, and I would trust the axe murderer more.
Can anyone explain how this could be possible???
Originally Posted by radjack79
I am sorry to pick on this response, but I really dont get this attitude. The current government has been caught red handed with stealing our hard earned money but yet you dont trust Harper, and will re elect a Liberal government????
I find this hard to believe that you can trust Martin more than you can trust Harper. If it was an axe murderer running the opposition, I still think I would rather give him a chance over Martins Liberals, and I would trust the axe murderer more.
Can anyone explain how this could be possible???
I find this hard to believe that you can trust Martin more than you can trust Harper. If it was an axe murderer running the opposition, I still think I would rather give him a chance over Martins Liberals, and I would trust the axe murderer more.
Can anyone explain how this could be possible???
I would be voting for any government that will get me closer to:
less intervention in our daily lives and more emphasis on personal self sufficiency
lower personal, consumption and corporate taxes and that incents business investment and growth
a health care system that actually works whether it be public, private or both, and that makes people who don't take care of their own health pay extra because of it
smaller governments that are legally held accountable for what they promise and not being able to run deficit budgets subject to specific emergencies
less social programs and subsidies for so many things including day care.
better accountability for parents of young criminals and tougher punishment for criminals
programs modelled on other countries successful best practices
Just a few things from my right wing dream list.
less intervention in our daily lives and more emphasis on personal self sufficiency
lower personal, consumption and corporate taxes and that incents business investment and growth
a health care system that actually works whether it be public, private or both, and that makes people who don't take care of their own health pay extra because of it
smaller governments that are legally held accountable for what they promise and not being able to run deficit budgets subject to specific emergencies
less social programs and subsidies for so many things including day care.
better accountability for parents of young criminals and tougher punishment for criminals
programs modelled on other countries successful best practices
Just a few things from my right wing dream list.
Originally Posted by RBull
I would be voting for any government that will get me closer to:
less intervention in our daily lives and more emphasis on personal self sufficiency
lower personal, consumption and corporate taxes and that incents business investment and growth
a health care system that actually works whether it be public, private or both, and that makes people who don't take care of their own health pay extra because of it
smaller governments that are legally held accountable for what they promise and not being able to run deficit budgets subject to specific emergencies
less social programs and subsidies for so many things including day care.
better accountability for parents of young criminals and tougher punishment for criminals
programs modelled on other countries successful best practices
Just a few things from my right wing dream list.
less intervention in our daily lives and more emphasis on personal self sufficiency
lower personal, consumption and corporate taxes and that incents business investment and growth
a health care system that actually works whether it be public, private or both, and that makes people who don't take care of their own health pay extra because of it
smaller governments that are legally held accountable for what they promise and not being able to run deficit budgets subject to specific emergencies
less social programs and subsidies for so many things including day care.
better accountability for parents of young criminals and tougher punishment for criminals
programs modelled on other countries successful best practices
Just a few things from my right wing dream list.

Could not have said it better myself.
Have any of you checked out this site yet? http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/
I did the quiz and apparently I support PC 33.33%, Lib 33.33%, and NDP 33.33%. D'oh!
I did the quiz and apparently I support PC 33.33%, Lib 33.33%, and NDP 33.33%. D'oh!
Funkey quiz. Agree with Martin on 11 issues, Harper on 10. Disagree with Martin on 1 and Harper 2.
I disagree with any one who likes Liberal policies but is voting for some one else only based on the jump on the wagon "we need a change". Unless you actually looked into what the other party's policies are and honestly think you agree with them. Don't assume that all change is automatically for the better.
Any one who's voting based on the "Liberals are corrupt" you can't possibly be so naive to believe that the other parties are any better. I don't think that what they did is "right", but it could have been far worse, and honestly if it was any other of the parties in power for so long don't expect things would have been any different. Unless the other party isn't human ofcourse, or they're just plain lucky and don't get cought.
Every one should educate themselves about the issues involved and what each party's stand is. Then vote based on that. Not how creapy the guy at the helm is. Not because every lemming and his neighbour is yelling out "we need change". Consider all the policies and all the aspects of the government. What happens if a year from now we experience another major international cirsis. Which of the leaders do you think would do a good job in leading the country under pressure? Which leader has the experience to keep the country together in case of a major terrorist hit on lets say Vancouver or Toronto?
Look through all the usual candy coated statements. If some one is promising to cut taxes and increase spendings, do the math. Where will the money come from and where will those policies leave us a few years down the road? Don't take anything comming from any of the parties at face value. Think it all over, then decide.
And finally, do get out there and vote. Don't throw your arms up in the air. It's not hard, it's not complicated, it does not take very long.
I disagree with any one who likes Liberal policies but is voting for some one else only based on the jump on the wagon "we need a change". Unless you actually looked into what the other party's policies are and honestly think you agree with them. Don't assume that all change is automatically for the better.
Any one who's voting based on the "Liberals are corrupt" you can't possibly be so naive to believe that the other parties are any better. I don't think that what they did is "right", but it could have been far worse, and honestly if it was any other of the parties in power for so long don't expect things would have been any different. Unless the other party isn't human ofcourse, or they're just plain lucky and don't get cought.
Every one should educate themselves about the issues involved and what each party's stand is. Then vote based on that. Not how creapy the guy at the helm is. Not because every lemming and his neighbour is yelling out "we need change". Consider all the policies and all the aspects of the government. What happens if a year from now we experience another major international cirsis. Which of the leaders do you think would do a good job in leading the country under pressure? Which leader has the experience to keep the country together in case of a major terrorist hit on lets say Vancouver or Toronto?
Look through all the usual candy coated statements. If some one is promising to cut taxes and increase spendings, do the math. Where will the money come from and where will those policies leave us a few years down the road? Don't take anything comming from any of the parties at face value. Think it all over, then decide.
And finally, do get out there and vote. Don't throw your arms up in the air. It's not hard, it's not complicated, it does not take very long.
Originally Posted by Balzz
Have any of you checked out this site yet? http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/
I did the quiz and apparently I support PC 33.33%, Lib 33.33%, and NDP 33.33%. D'oh!
I did the quiz and apparently I support PC 33.33%, Lib 33.33%, and NDP 33.33%. D'oh!
Agree:
Martin = 6
Layton = 9
Harper = 4
Duceppe = 7
Disagree:
Martin = 4
Layton = 1
Harper = 5
Duceppe = 3
Not to agree or Disagree:
Martin = 2
Layton = 2
Harper = 3
Duceppe = 2
I didn't even bother factoring in Duceppe. I unchecked that box before I started. I just don't see how Harper is going to keep his promises without the country going into the ****ter for the long term. Everyone wants to punish the Liberals though, so it looks like we'll have a Tory government.



