Lets talk tires...
Originally Posted by jeremyg35
i don't really have anything to add, going stateside is the way to go.
i was recently locally quoted for a set of replacement michelins (225/45+245/45/18's) the incredible price of....drumroll....$2200
(and i think taxes were extra-i didn't stick around long enough to find out!)
i was recently locally quoted for a set of replacement michelins (225/45+245/45/18's) the incredible price of....drumroll....$2200
(and i think taxes were extra-i didn't stick around long enough to find out!)
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UPS is delivering the tires today. The cost of Duty, Brokerage and Taxes came up to $310.24. Called ahead to UPS and gave the tracking numbers, paid the extra's by Credit Card so the driver wouldn't be asked for C.O.D.
$1120 CDN Aproximately for tires and shipping
$310 CDN in brokerage, GST/PST, Duty
$100-150 Install
I'm definitely happy with the cost savings. I should be able to put a couple hundred KM's on before the weekend, so I can give you a good review on the RE050A Pole Positions. I did see the low treadwear rating, but half the year you're driving on snow's, and if you're going to keep your rubber for more than two seasons, it'll lose a crapload of its stick anyways.
With the exchange rate as is, its hands down worth your while to go Stateside for your tire purchase.
$1120 CDN Aproximately for tires and shipping
$310 CDN in brokerage, GST/PST, Duty
$100-150 Install
I'm definitely happy with the cost savings. I should be able to put a couple hundred KM's on before the weekend, so I can give you a good review on the RE050A Pole Positions. I did see the low treadwear rating, but half the year you're driving on snow's, and if you're going to keep your rubber for more than two seasons, it'll lose a crapload of its stick anyways.
With the exchange rate as is, its hands down worth your while to go Stateside for your tire purchase.
Originally Posted by link91
I decided not go with the Michelin Pilot Sports again, so I ordered the Bridgestone RE050A Pole Positions, essentially the replacements for the S-03's that I have heard amazing things about.
Here is a link for the Tire rack tests on the RE050A Pole Positions:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...+Pole+Position
I ordered a set of two 225/45/18's and two 245/45/18's. Total came up to $997 USD, that included shipping costs (about $80 USD).
I expect to pay UPS the following when it arrives:
-15% GST/PST
-UPS brokerage fee is estimated at under $70 CDN, straight from UPS Canada customer service 1-800 line.
-If Duty is involved because the tires were manufactured outside of the USA, then I expect to pay another 7%. I believe these tires are made in the USA, which means, us Canadians will not pay duty on it.
-Even a high end tire shop that rapes you on price, will charge me no more than $150 to mount and balance and dispose of my old tires.
If I have to pay that 7% duty, I am still saving over +$300 CDN based on all the quotes I collected in the GTA from 4 different tire shops on S-03's, or Michelin PS's.
I will post all final details of what I paid to put everything on my car in about 1 week when my tires arrive.
Here is a link for the Tire rack tests on the RE050A Pole Positions:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...+Pole+Position
I ordered a set of two 225/45/18's and two 245/45/18's. Total came up to $997 USD, that included shipping costs (about $80 USD).
I expect to pay UPS the following when it arrives:
-15% GST/PST
-UPS brokerage fee is estimated at under $70 CDN, straight from UPS Canada customer service 1-800 line.
-If Duty is involved because the tires were manufactured outside of the USA, then I expect to pay another 7%. I believe these tires are made in the USA, which means, us Canadians will not pay duty on it.
-Even a high end tire shop that rapes you on price, will charge me no more than $150 to mount and balance and dispose of my old tires.
If I have to pay that 7% duty, I am still saving over +$300 CDN based on all the quotes I collected in the GTA from 4 different tire shops on S-03's, or Michelin PS's.
I will post all final details of what I paid to put everything on my car in about 1 week when my tires arrive.
Last edited by link91; May 23, 2006 at 09:53 AM.
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Originally Posted by elrooko
Maybe I just can't see how any tire would be better than these. I can take off ramps at over 130 and not even a hint of breaking loose. I have run them through a salom course and they performed awesome.
Anyhow they have soft sidewalls. Depedning what sidewall you have (I had 205/55-16 front 245/45-16 rear) and they felt like winter tires in regards to turn in and stability. The grip was good but nothing to brag about since they are a harder compound.
But hey if you like them that's great. But there's lots out there that's much better.
Originally Posted by elrooko
Maybe I just can't see how any tire would be better than these. I can take off ramps at over 130 and not even a hint of breaking loose. I have run them through a salom course and they performed awesome.
Originally Posted by Balzz
I would pay money to watch you take a normal 270-degree ramp at 130.
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Originally Posted by elrooko
Also install was about $100 at the shop - a little pricy but they were awesome installers. Friendly, very careful with the wheels - they didn't use an air gun and torqued the wheels by hand with a torque wrench, I drove the car about 15 miles then came back and they re-torqued them to make sure the lugs didn't move. All in all, money well spent in my opinon. It has been over a year and the wheels are still perfectly balanced and there is no vibration at all - at least I haven't tried above 180
Recommend you move here to Nova Scotia- in the long run, the savings will be worth it. For exactly what you described above, I paid $16 and a Tim Hortons medium double double, here in Middleton, NS. Kudos to the fellas here at Fundy Ford. While I'd only consider a Ford truck, this dealership is why I would. Everyone on staff is top notch, and despite the fact that it's a G35 they're flipping winters and summers from, they treat me the same as when I had F150s for motorbike racin'.
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Ref the tires- Mich PS if you have 18s, PS2s if you have 19s. Treadwear on the RE050s is ridiculous, chassis control is down, and the communication is dull. Heaviest carcass around too, should you check the stats, which is never good as reciprocating unsprung mass. My 18" PSs on my previous G were far superior in every regard. I would not purchase a Bridgestones based upon this OEM experience. Anyone considering cheaper, poor quality rubber- I'd ask this: why'd you buy a $50K sports car instead of a Corolla? Tires are the "seatoyurass/planet interface". Skimp on bling, splurge on traction, if you must prioritise. Jumping off my soapbox now.
Cheers,
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Cheers,
D
Originally Posted by derek
Ref the tires- Mich PS if you have 18s, PS2s if you have 19s. Treadwear on the RE050s is ridiculous, chassis control is down, and the communication is dull. Heaviest carcass around too, should you check the stats, which is never good as reciprocating unsprung mass. My 18" PSs on my previous G were far superior in every regard. I would not purchase a Bridgestones based upon this OEM experience. Anyone considering cheaper, poor quality rubber- I'd ask this: why'd you buy a $50K sports car instead of a Corolla? Tires are the "seatoyurass/planet interface". Skimp on bling, splurge on traction, if you must prioritise. Jumping off my soapbox now.
Cheers,
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Cheers,
D
I agree with your analysis and my personal experience.
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Dreading the end of this summer, btw, since my Bridgestone equipped X Trail, with only 38K kms (treadwear rating of 180 on a cute-ute tire, wtf!!!) is soon on the wearbars, and the G (treadwear rating 140- is there a tire with lower anywhere?), with only 12K kms, will soon be in need of back boots as well.
I've decided to go PS2s all around instead of "long stinting" the fronts and just picking up RE050 rears for the G. May be more money in the short run, but I'm confident that my enjoyment of the car will be elevated. The RE050 has just not been the tire that made its (albeit a modified version) debut on the Ferrari Enzo.
Before any potential flamers ask "what did you expect", remember, my first G coupe came with PSs, and on the same day that I handed over my keys for one and took the keys for the other, I was able to compare the two directly, and since I had scrapped the first set of rear PSs and put on new ones, I knew what to expect regarding wear rate. Agree or disagree- that's up to you, IMHO, the Michelin is the superior performance tire.
I've decided to go PS2s all around instead of "long stinting" the fronts and just picking up RE050 rears for the G. May be more money in the short run, but I'm confident that my enjoyment of the car will be elevated. The RE050 has just not been the tire that made its (albeit a modified version) debut on the Ferrari Enzo.
Before any potential flamers ask "what did you expect", remember, my first G coupe came with PSs, and on the same day that I handed over my keys for one and took the keys for the other, I was able to compare the two directly, and since I had scrapped the first set of rear PSs and put on new ones, I knew what to expect regarding wear rate. Agree or disagree- that's up to you, IMHO, the Michelin is the superior performance tire.