Are Zaino detailing products any good?
I just tryed them for the first time today. I think they work best on a new car. Since there are no abrasives in the polish they seen to work best on a flawless surface. I know they make Z5 for swirl repair though. Not overly impressed so far. Maybe after a couple more coats of Z2 Pro the Zaino bug will get me too. Good luck.
Originally Posted by eightpilot
I just tryed them for the first time today. I think they work best on a new car. Since there are no abrasives in the polish they seen to work best on a flawless surface. I know they make Z5 for swirl repair though. Not overly impressed so far. Maybe after a couple more coats of Z2 Pro the Zaino bug will get me too. Good luck.
Zaino makes very durable sealants. The one thing they have over many other products is their longevity. Some people like the look of sealants (and Zaino pretty much typifies the "sealant look"), some prefer the look of waxes, some prefer a more "in between" look, that's a subjective decision. Eightpolist is definitely right that Z2 likes to be on a near perfect surface; it will make any flaws seem more apparent.
On the other hand the new Z5 pro will hide some swirls/scratches, so if you have them, that might be a better choice for you.
thanks for the input. i've read the products on their site, and they look to be what i could use. price seems fair too. i'll let you know how it goes, and post some pics when i'm done
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Originally Posted by overdrve
What exactly is the difference in looks between a sealant and waxes? As in, how would they look different your finish? I'm a little confused.
Like I said, properly prepped either will look great.
Zaino is great stuff and I just ordered a bunch of the new Z5Pro to try out. I'll hopefully post a comparison soon.
(BTW I am pretty sure I'm the only mobile detailing service using Zaino products in Florida -and- I'm a sponsor here
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(BTW I am pretty sure I'm the only mobile detailing service using Zaino products in Florida -and- I'm a sponsor here
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Hose or No Hose???
I actually got my Zaino ULTIMATE Protection Show Car Kit in the mail the other day. The instructions give clear detail and give you a good guide..
As they all do, they recommend using the Dawn Dish soap the FIRST TIME especially if this is a new car to get all of the gunk off...MY QUESTION IS..
I live in a condo complex. I haven't found any water hookups yet, so I was thinking of buying a bunch of buckets in addition to the one I have now and just fill that up with water and literally pour the water over my car and just use one of the buckets for soap solution....Can I do this or should I be using a hose to rinse my car????
As they all do, they recommend using the Dawn Dish soap the FIRST TIME especially if this is a new car to get all of the gunk off...MY QUESTION IS..I live in a condo complex. I haven't found any water hookups yet, so I was thinking of buying a bunch of buckets in addition to the one I have now and just fill that up with water and literally pour the water over my car and just use one of the buckets for soap solution....Can I do this or should I be using a hose to rinse my car????
Originally Posted by truplay8
great product.....lots of time and effort
Difference is that a better and longer lasting result is possible if you wish to invest the time.
As far as effort is concerned, wax = buffing; effort and skill required to get a good result. zaino = wipe on, wipe off in a straight line = very little effort or skill, to get an arguably better result.
Please, please, please would folks stop scaring people away from Zaino by claiming it is too much work?
Basic application: wash car. apply z2. This will yeild a better and longer lasting result than doing the same thing with any Carnauba wax.
The time and effort for any of the processes goes up from there. My buddy loves his Carnauba, and religiously follows the exact same process as I would with Zaino, except that if he leaves his black truck in the sun for a month, and I do the same with my car, he has a bare car at the end of the month, and I have a car that is still protected by a sealant.
Therefore.... wax = huge effort, since you get to do it every month if you want your car's finish to be protected; zaino = little effort, as that's the last time you'll need to do it until October.
Here's the real problem with Zaino:
You buy the stuff hoping it's gonna be great. It is. You fall in love with the smell of the stuff, and how it make the car looks. It becomes an addiction. You buy more Zaino products for other bits of the car- tires, leather, glass, plastic. They smell great too. (Somehow, they have managed to bottle dead cow skin!
) And they work great, too. Suddenly, your credit card is maxed out, and all the purchases on last month's bill are Zaino.
Your wife hasn't seen you in the last month, because you're in the garage, getting just one more coat of detailing spray on the hood, and then taking photos...again...for the 5th time this week. Broke and divorced, you secretly begin to call the car "Precious."They could have called the movie trilogy "Lord of the Zaino".
To dispel the new car/old car myth, here are Zaino'd 85 RX7 GSL-SE and 87 MR2 photos. On the RX, we did two coats of plastic polish to bring the black plastic on the taillights from oxidized whitish grey to what could hardly be distinguished from brand new shiny black. (20 year old plastic!)
The myth that Zaino is more of an effort comes from Zaino giving people detailed instructions from the wash on up (and ZFX). Waxes, sealants; they're all the same amount of effort. Waxes are not more effort than sealants, they just require more frequent application, however they are generally easier to apply and remove, so there's the tradeoff.
I'm not sure what "waxing = buffing" means. Waxes and sealants are applied in the same way and removed in the same way.
I honestly don't know where the sealants vs. waxes thing comes from. Frankly it's sort of silly; waxes and sealants contribute almost nothing to the overall look of paint. Depth, gloss, wetness, reflectivity, are all a product of proper prep. Sealants and waxes do have a minor effect on these attributes, but one that is so small the arguments really don't seem worth it. I've said it once and I will say it again; on a properly prepped car there is almost no one who could tell the difference between one sealant or another on it. Use what works for you.
I'm not sure what "waxing = buffing" means. Waxes and sealants are applied in the same way and removed in the same way.
I honestly don't know where the sealants vs. waxes thing comes from. Frankly it's sort of silly; waxes and sealants contribute almost nothing to the overall look of paint. Depth, gloss, wetness, reflectivity, are all a product of proper prep. Sealants and waxes do have a minor effect on these attributes, but one that is so small the arguments really don't seem worth it. I've said it once and I will say it again; on a properly prepped car there is almost no one who could tell the difference between one sealant or another on it. Use what works for you.
Originally Posted by picus112
The myth that Zaino is more of an effort comes from Zaino giving people detailed instructions from the wash on up (and ZFX). Waxes, sealants; they're all the same amount of effort. Waxes are not more effort than sealants, they just require more frequent application, however they are generally easier to apply and remove, so there's the tradeoff.
I'm not sure what "waxing = buffing" means. Waxes and sealants are applied in the same way and removed in the same way.
I'm not sure what "waxing = buffing" means. Waxes and sealants are applied in the same way and removed in the same way.
Picus,
ref the wax buff thing- just referring to the fact that to get a satisfactory result, there is actually some small amount of technique with a wax (or use of a ROP from Porter-Cable for example) to buff the wax, whereas with the Zaino, the stuff just wipes right off, straight lines, no talent or effort required. And because it is applied so sparingly, the effort to remove such a small amount of product is less. As for "apply and remove", I have found the opposite to your experience- wax is far more temperature tempermental.
I still tease my Carnauba buddy on the longevity thing. To see the diff, we did part of his black truck in Zaino and part in Mothers. After a month he knew there was a difference. "Geez, the left front part of the truck is looking good, along with the tailgate...too bad about the rest of it is so dull- whassup with that?" For the rest of the summer, he spent a lot of time keeping the rest of the truck looking as good as the Zaino part.
Cheers,
Derek



