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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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are you using a porter cable or are you doing it by hand?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Sounds like you have some haze from the #3 swirl remover - you'll need to continue finishing down with the #1 until the gloss comes back.

depoz is right, by hand or pc is important. Also, did you get the results you expected re: swirl removal?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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But what do you mean by finishing down? Thanks!
What they mean is the surface has been polished, but it left haze marks from the process......you need to either reapply the finishing polish, or use another fine polish to remove the haze from your first step.

Once you remove the haze.....the paint should pop with color and clarity...Then you know your good to go.

The white specs you mention could very well be tiny chips from road debris/sand etc.....

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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The chips are probably little stone chips that are filled with polish now like GR8TG35 mentioned.

Haze is as a result of using an aggressive compound on soft paint; you need to treat it like sanding furniture; use a low grit, then move to a higher grit until you have a nice smooth finish. So you need to use a less aggressive polish on a less aggressive pad to remove the hazing (which is just little tiny scratches) and bring the luster back to the paint. It's a pain on G35s, but it'll turn out ok.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Go back to the number 1 (probably the ultra fine swirl remover?) Spread the polish when the buffer is off, then buff it for about a minute and then turn up the speed a little bit and buff it until the polish is broken down, thios should take 3-5 minutes. One the polish is almost broken down all the way apply less pressure than before, once its broken down all the way just wipe it off and put a glaze or wax on it.

-sean
 
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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When you say coats, what do you mean? Coats usually means "applied, let haze, then buff". Do you mean that, or you applied via the PC, worked the polish etc..? I assume you mean you applied via PC.

Haze usually looks like this:



Is that what your paint looks like?

If so, and assuming you used the #1 via PC, it sounds like you're going to need to try a few things to finish clean. Either you need a slightly more aggressive polish *or* you need to go really lightly. G35 paint can be tricky, PM me if you need to.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Picus is that your car or one that you worked on? it looks like it has a ton of orange peel?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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It's one I worked on. That's not orange peel, it's haze from compounding. Here is an after:



Here is another example of compounding haze that's a little more obvious:



It's just millions of tiny little scratches from compounding that need to be cleaned up with a less aggressive pad/polish.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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What I mean is now that you have compounded the swirls out you need to polish the marring from that compounding out. This is usually done by using a less abrasive polish and pad. So for example; on the G above the haze was put there by compounding with a yellow pad and hi-temp extreme cut, which is an aggressive compound.

Now to remove that haze I then polished with a white pad and Menznera Final Polish II. This is a "finishing" polish. I polished the same way I compounded (speed 6, light-med pressure, move the PC slowly), but the combo of light pad and light polish cleaned the hazing up.

So ok this is important, and this is what I meant when I said "go lightly". On G35s the paint is soft, so typical "finishing" doesn't always work. Sometimes you need to use an even less aggressive pad/polish. In this case you may need to use a black (finishing pad) at a low speed (3-4) with no pressure. Only try this if typical finishing doesn't work.

Just keep fiddling with your pads/polishes and speed/pressure on a spot until you find a combo that works.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Hey picus that looks real good.... we should write a little detail manual and post it up for everyone if your interested i remeber someone had mentioned it before ( I also do Detailing and have a shop ) but if your interested let me know i would love to share my knoweledge with everyone
 
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