yes, they do have polish for clearcoats and it is safe.

the problem with Zaino is it takes VERY LONG, and is VERY EXPENSIVE. My suggestion is to find your closes auto detail supplier (the guys the pro's go to buy their stuff) and buy some polish/sealent/wax. I've found that professional products almost always yeild better results. Many of the consumer brands spend there money on adverstising/packaging/store space. Get professional grade and get great results

also professional products are much cheaper! I got 32 oz. of some really high quality sealent for $15. This stuff looks just as good as Zanio, is easier to apply (one step instead of 4) and is much cheaper! To get the same results and applications would cost over $100 on the Zanio system.

 

It takes a little while to apply the first application. Every coat thereafter will take 15 minutes to put on and 15 minutes to take off which is easier than regular wax. It isn't that expensive since you're only using 1/2 to 3/4 of an ounce per coat.


Russ

Black w/willow, 6MT Coupe, nav, aero, V1, PS2, & TVs all up in the headrests.
Jax, FL

 

I am with TrentaCinque. Go with Zaino. It's a bit more expensive, but not as expensive as some might think. Let us know if you join the Zaino mental institution.

G35 Coupe. Diamond Graphite, Graphite, Premium and wheel and Tire package. Zaino Baby.

 

soG35 I beg to differ with you about some your misconceptions of Zaino.

Zaino doesn't take any longer than any other wax. Yes there is a two step process of applying Z-1 then using either Z-2 or Z5. You don't need to wipe off the z-1 so putting a coat of Z-2 takes the same amount of work as applying another coat of regular wax to make sure you got all of the areas. If you spring for the ZFX it's just one application just like any other wax.

It's not much more expensive than a regular wax like Meguiars gold class. All you need to start is a bottle of $9 Z-1 and a bottle of $13 Z-2. You bought a $35K car and your complaining about an extra $10 for wax?

Zaino doesn't advertise. I have never seen an advertisement in a magazine or a TV spot. Its advertising is the word of mouth from users

Zaino doesn't take any longer than any other wax. yes there is a two step process of applying Z-1 then using either Z-2 or Z5. You don't need to wipe off the z-1 so putting a coat of Z-2 takes the same amount of work as applying another coat of regular wax to make sure you got all of the areas. If you spring for the ZFX it's just one application just like any other wax.

As for 4 steps that’s up to you. After using a Clay bar, I would never consider applying any wax on a car until I finished claying it. It leaves that nice of a finish.

Before applying any wax, you would want to wash your car with Dawn anyway.

Zaino doesn't leave a white residue so you can be fairly sloppy in applying it and it will wipe off with no problem.

I won’t comment on your “high quality sealant for $15. This stuff looks just as good as Zanio, is easier to apply (one step instead of 4)” as I have not seen it. I can tell you that Zaino leaves a remarkable finish.


Jim
'03 Sedan
Brilliant Silver/Graphite
6MT/ Premium package
Sport tuned suspension
Aerodynamic Body Kit
Navigation and Satellite Radio

 

agreed.. zaino's is not that expensive, once you know how to use it correctly. Less is more. What kind of makes it expensive is the ZFX, but that's just an option. Personally I wouldn't use Zainos without ZFX.

G35C 6MT / AMG E55

 

you guys make some good points. I know it is possible just to buy Z1 and Z3. I know it is possible to just do one coat of each. But I have NEVER spoken to anyone who does this using Zanio. Everyone uses at least 4-5 coats. That takes alot of time, usually 3-4 days. Also ZFX is more expensive than PURE SILVER.

As far as price Zanio is at least 3-4 times more expensive then professional products. Forget about Meguires Gold class, thats a total rip off, its results arn't even close to Zanio.

For those of you who love Zanio (it is a great product) have any of you actually used the professional stuff? Just wondering because various studies have shown that the gloss and reflective qualities are about the same as Zanio.

I mean it kinda of makes sense that the professional products have high quality. These dudes make their lively hood on detailing, they must used the highest quality product for the price. These guys are detailing $100K cars everyday! I've spoken to many proffessional detailers. Most say Zanio is a great product but its price and time commitment is not worth the results. I don't know if you guys know Bud Abraham, but he's been doing detailing for decades (even published numerous books), he swears that professional grade is the way to go. So far I don't know any pro's who use Zanio for their clients cars.

 

I just use one coat of zaino. Only did like 4 coats on the initial zaino use.

Anyways, yes the professional stuff works well. I mainly use the DACP to get rid, not hide swirl marks on older car.

I just wan't to add though, Zaino's last alot longer than any product i've used, but their are alot of other products that will outshine Zainos

G35C 6MT / AMG E55<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by wreck on 12/12/03 01:04 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

Zaino costed me $40 for Z1, 2, 6, 7, and an applicator! ZFX would have been $10 more. Oh, the most expensive and time consuming part...I had to go out of my way to buy the DAWN...and it wasn't on sale!
Zaino uses back/forth strokes, as opposed to circular motions with other waxes/polishes. You don't remove Z1. And the gloss enhancer only adds to the shine.
Plus, if you are comparing the time it takes for 4 coats of Zaino, at least compare it with the time it takes for 4 coats of wax/polish.


2K4 G35S 6MT, Diamond Graphite/Graphite, Premium Pkg
2K2 GS300 5AT SportDesign, Millenium Silver/Black

 

Oh, and Zaino is safe on the windows, rubber, plastic, and any other trims. You use it on the WHOLE car, don't need to be careful like wax.


2K4 G35S 6MT, Diamond Graphite/Graphite, Premium Pkg
2K2 GS300 5AT SportDesign, Millenium Silver/Black

 

http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

G35 Coupe, IP, 6MT, prem

 

interesting test. but again there were no professional products used in the test. like i said most brands in the store suck. if you can use only 1 coat of Zanio to get awesome results, thats great.

Personally I've seen the results of Zanio and they are impressive. But they are about the same as a high quality professional product sealent. Personally, i use only 1 coat of sealent every 3 months(they recommend 6 months but I want to be safe). It takes me only 20 minutes to apply and remove. I can get 1 GALLON of sealent for only $20. To me its a waste of money to pay 5X the cash for the same results.

If you do get noticable differences using Zanio, more power to you. Most people I've spoken to have used Meguires, Mothers, Turtle Wax. When they use Zanio they are immediatly impressed. But they don't realize that alot of the brands used by pro detailers are just as good. I just recommend some of you try some Pro-products yourself.

 

soG35 I think it all comes down to access. It sounds you have a good hook up to get your products. Most people wouldn't have a clue to where they could get the products you speak about. Zaino and clear guard are easily obtainable.

Jim
'03 Sedan
Brilliant Silver/Graphite
6MT/ Premium package
Sport tuned suspension
Aerodynamic Body Kit
Navigation and Satellite Radio

 

My advice to find your closes auto detail supplier is to look in your yellow pages or online yellow pages. They are everywhere! Another way is the online route. Two sites I've used is detailplus.com & detailsupplyoutlet.com.

As far as the difference between pro and consumer products, there are major differences. Many consumer products are more expensive because of advertising, packaging, and distribution costs. The pro products in general have more active ingredents in the formula, thus are more effective. I assume that the consumer products have less 'chemicals' because of law suits. Pro products usually come in larger containers (usually gallon), thus the cheaper price. One final consideration is that many pro products require machine application. But there are a number of high quality hand application formulas too.

I've also noticed that many consumer brand waxes have a TON of filler material. Ever notice how there is so much white residue on your car vinyl after using Meguires Gold Class? Again I assume this is the case to protect the consumer.