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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Ok so i have light waterspots on my paint. I Just washed my car and saw them all over. Kind of weird because i wash my car weekly and dry with microfibers and a blower. How do you guys recommend to remove these waterspots? do i wash with dawn soap so i can start from scratch and them dry, will this take the waterspots off? thanks in advance!
 
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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have they become etched in the paint? You could try claybar + polishing.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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i think they are etched.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Angry I heard from a detailer....

I had that same issue, professional detailer said to use a chemical cleaner that you can buy from adams or any one of those detail shops online; a chemical wipe that cleans the paint. Other option is one part distilled vinegar and 2 part distilled water. You can get most of the acid off your car this way. If it is etched in already.....clay bar....!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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I have tried claybar with no results. We have really hard water here, and spots happen easily. One thing that will remove them from glass, I've found chrome polish works wonders.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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I had that same issue, professional detailer said to use a chemical cleaner that you can buy from adams or any one of those detail shops online; a chemical wipe that cleans the paint. Other option is one part distilled vinegar and 2 part distilled water. You can get most of the acid off your car this way. If it is etched in already.....clay bar....!
I would go with his method. It they get really bad, You going to have to wetsand them. Did you have any protection on the car ???
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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I have tried claybar with no results. We have really hard water here, and spots happen easily. One thing that will remove them from glass, I've found chrome polish works wonders.
Holy shiznitts Tom, I would hate to have that problem. How would a product like Optimum No Rinse (ONR) work, they say it actually conditions the water. If you get water marks that do stay on the paint, I would definitely try it as a means to prevent it.

Here Tom, I found a link that talks about ONR : http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
 

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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Holy shiznitts Tom, I would hate to have that problem. How would a product like Optimum No Rinse (ONR) work, they say it actually conditions the water. If you get water marks that do stay on the paint, I would definitely try it as a means to prevent it.
Wayne, whenever you buy a car here that has been on the lot, you have some water spots, since they wash them where they sit. I rinse my car with de-ionized water, and sometimes do the entire wash with it. I'm not as **** as I used to be with the spotting though, LOL! You should see what it looks like if you get hit by a wayward sprinkler and it dries. I'm leery of that ONR with all the grit we get out here from the sand blowing.
 

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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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I would go with his method. It they get really bad, You going to have to wetsand them. Did you have any protection on the car ???
Vinegar really only works on ours if you address it right away, our sun is brutal!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
Wayne, whenever you buy a car here that has been on the lot, you have some water spots, since they wash them where they sit. I rinse my car with de-ionized water, and sometimes do the entire wash with it. I'm not as **** as I used to be with the spotting though, LOL! You should see what it looks like if you get hit by a wayward sprinkler and it dries. I'm leery of that ONR with all the grit we get out here from the sand blowing.
Tom, I have seen it work and Ian swears by it and you know how **** he is about his cars. I am ordering some of it before summer gets here. If Ian reads this I'm sure he will chime in.
Edit: you are right I haven't seen your sand blowing, hopefully someday, my friend .
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
Vinegar really only works on ours if you address it right away, our sun is brutal!

Not as brutal as trying to maintain a black car! I certainly don't miss that headache... the wind blows the wrong way for two seconds and your whole car is covered in dust.

If clay bar doesn't work, I'd be hesitant before I tried anything too abrasive. There's a "ask a professional detailer" thread on here - might want to give that a try!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 03:41 AM
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Vinegar really only works on ours if you address it right away, our sun is brutal!
My friend had really bad water spots on his black trans am and I tried vinegar and it didn't work, even at FS. I had to wetsand (2000) the waterspots after trying polish, clay and a paint cleaner. I also have hard water where I live.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrooge
My friend had really bad water spots on his black trans am and I tried vinegar and it didn't work, even at FS. I had to wetsand (2000) the waterspots after trying polish, clay and a paint cleaner. I also have hard water where I live.
What you get on a new car isn't terrible, just mostly some ghosts of the spots, because they do dry them when they wash, it's just that here it has a tendency to dry before you can dry it. Bad spots, you mean almost "crusty"?

And as far as having a black car, I'm not sorry I got mine, it's not any harder to keep than a red car from my experience, and I've had several red or maroon cars! And, believe me, the dust and sand we get out here is far worse than Maryland, LOL!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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There are two categories of water spot-

a) Stage One Corrosion [: defined as a surface with light to moderate corrosion damage to the paint surface]

b) Stage Two Corrosion [: definition when the dirt/corrosion deposits are no longer on the surface but have started to break down the molecular structure, leaving an etched or white haze on the surface after the stain has been removed, with moderate to serious paint damage]

Removal of Water Spots - http://www.detailuniversity.com/foru...ter-spots.html
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
What you get on a new car isn't terrible, just mostly some ghosts of the spots, because they do dry them when they wash, it's just that here it has a tendency to dry before you can dry it. Bad spots, you mean almost "crusty"?

And as far as having a black car, I'm not sorry I got mine, it's not any harder to keep than a red car from my experience, and I've had several red or maroon cars! And, believe me, the dust and sand we get out here is far worse than Maryland, LOL!
My dad has 2007 sky and that got etch water spots fast. Wasn't able to remove intil a polish it. New or old paint, it still going to leave water spots
 
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