Hi Everyone
I think I need some help here. When I bought my car I noticed almost the whole car was covered with swirls.

I got the Menzerna Ultimate Detailing Machine Kit (with porter cable)
Came with
Menzerna Intensive Polish (Medium Grade)
Menzerna Final Polish
Menzerna Final Glaze

I also applied Nxt wax to the body after I was finished.

After I cleaned and clay bared the car, I applied both polishes glaze and wax to the car. (using a microfiber towel to remove the resuedue)

After that the car looks perfect, in the sun no swirls nothing looks like a brand new car.

After about 1 week (still no swirl marks). I decide to wash the car. After I wash the car I notice almost right away all the swirls are back and the wax didn't stay on the car.

I was really careful washing the car I used a brand new real wool mit, I used the DP foaming shampoo and foam master, I made sure the mit was clean and free of any debris.

Am I doing something wrong here?
Did I used a bad wax?
Did the detailing kit just cover up the swrils and washing just showed them again?

Can you guys recomend anything. I don't want to have to spend 7 hours every wash reapplying everything all the time.

Thanks

-Paul

 

Ok. I need a few questions answered before I can help:

1. What speed on the PC did you use with the polishes?

2. What procedure did you use to break down the polishes? I.E. did you work each application of polish down until it was clear or started to dust?

3. How slowly/quickly did you move the PC when polishing? You should move it about 1/2 - 1" per second for swirl removal.

4. How much pressure did you apply to the PC?

5. What size pads were you using?

6. How much product did you apply to the pad?

 

Hi thanks for your response.

1. on the PC for the polishes I used between 4 and 5 on the dial

2. I just started to used it until it started to dust (didn't want to do to much)

3. I did move around 1" per second I didn't move fast at all

4. I didn't apply too much pressure just enough for it to contact the car firmly.

5. I was using the smaller orange CCS cutting pads
like this
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._2011_30842192

Also tried the yellow one but still didn't work.

6. I spread a line around the whole pad and with the machine off moved it around the area to be polished.


Also to note after I did my polish the car looked awesome it was after a wash the swirls came out.

Also I just watched the video about using the PC. I didn't use it as much as the guy on the video did. Maybe that was the problem?

 

Were those the 4 inch pads? I couldn't tell from your link. If so, 4-5 was appropriate for speed.

A line of polish around the pad is too much. After your initial application, you should really only use three small spots of polish. Did you clean your pad(s) at all during the detail? After each application or at least each panel, you should press a towel into the pad while it is running to clean the pad. After a while, the pad will be less effective if you don't.

Like you said, the fact that it was perfect after the polishing is the sticking point. Glazing and waxing can "fill" imperfections temporarily. Get some pics of how it looks now and post them if you can.

My suggestion is this:

Do one panel of your car over again. After you have used the polishes, spray the panel with a 50/50 mix of water and isopropyl alcohol. Then, look at it in sunlight or with lights. If there are no swirls showing at that point, then you are good to go. The alcohol mixture will remove any fillers and let you know exactly what you have going on. FYI: Whenever you embark on a major polishing, it is always a good idea to to one section and do the above to make sure that your process is working. Once you are sure it is working, then move on to the rest of the car. This avoids 2 seven hour marathon details. Believe me, I have been in your shoes and it hurts.

 

Thank you for all your help.
I will try your suggestions and keep you posted.

Your right I don't want to redo the whole car and figure out that I was doing the whole thing wrong again.

Thanks again

 

Hi

I polished 1 section using a brand new orange polishing pad using both the intensive polish and final polish.

Then i removed the residue using the isopropyl alcohol mixture. You are correct the car is still full of swirls and the polishes and glazes where just covering them up. (I will take pictures tommorow when the sun comes out again)

It looks like I am not polishing it correctly
I am following the video on this site, what could I possibly be doing wrong?
https://g35driver.com/forums/care-detailing-vids/207780-oxidation-removal-porter-cable-7424-a.html



Thanks

 

Also menzerna final glaze will fill a lot of those swirls and hide them for a very brief time.

 

Any suggestions on what I should use to actually fix the problem?

 

You just need to practice with the different combos you have to figure out what it takes to get the swirls out.I started on my trunk when i first started with the pc and finally got a combo to work.The pc took way to long for me so i bought the flex and it blows away the pc,i now use my rotary and flex.
Just remember use the least aggreisve combo that gets the job done.Oh and on the pc use speed 3 to spread and then to speed 6 as the pc dosent have much power.