Need help making a custom paint job glossy (shine) [PICS]
#16
Where is the bad prep? It is the way the clear comes out of a spray can. Bad prep does not give you orange peel. Bad prep give you paint flaking off.
#17
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From: Hockessin, DE
Hmm, yeah. I did clean and sand it down with 400 grit paper.
I used adhesion promoter after that, then some flexible primer, wet-sanded smooth. Then black with wetsanding between two coats. At this point, the lip looked perfectly fine.
I think simpson is correct in the fact that it's the way clear comes out of a can.
I'm pretty sure the prep job was fine because the paint has held up even with me flexing and installing the lip.
By the way, I followed this guide: http://forums.s2kca.com/showthread.php?t=15600
If you look at his final pictures, you can see it also doesn't have the reflective finish (his is silver though so it's not as noticeable).
I used adhesion promoter after that, then some flexible primer, wet-sanded smooth. Then black with wetsanding between two coats. At this point, the lip looked perfectly fine.
I think simpson is correct in the fact that it's the way clear comes out of a can.
I'm pretty sure the prep job was fine because the paint has held up even with me flexing and installing the lip.
By the way, I followed this guide: http://forums.s2kca.com/showthread.php?t=15600
If you look at his final pictures, you can see it also doesn't have the reflective finish (his is silver though so it's not as noticeable).
#18
OP, what clear coat did you use?
Obviously it's not going to come off you uses adhesion promoter, that's sprayable epoxy. Why do you think you need to spray the paint or primer on 10 minutes after the AP has been sprayed? Because the epoxy sets slightly and then fuses to the paint molecules.
I'll update this post later when I'm back to my other computer with the photos on it.
I know you can do better, it's not noticeable and looks totally fine but you can make it look like a shop did it, even with cans.
#19
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From: Hockessin, DE
I used Duplicolor Clear Coat.
What do you mean "it's" not going to come off? The orange peel? Or all the paint?
When I was spraying the clear on both the lip and the grill, I felt that the clear is what screwed it up. Both looked really good before that.
Also, I think that spraying plastic may be different than metal.
As for the wheels you sprayed, can you walk me through what you did? Did you have to wet-sand the clear coat and polish it?
Here's an example I found online: http://www.ehow.com/how_2182233_wet-sand-paint-car.html
You can see how bad the orange peel is before-hand. Maybe he didn't prep it correctly, but I feel that orange peel is going to be there from spray paint in glossy colors or clear coat.
What do you mean "it's" not going to come off? The orange peel? Or all the paint?
When I was spraying the clear on both the lip and the grill, I felt that the clear is what screwed it up. Both looked really good before that.
Also, I think that spraying plastic may be different than metal.
As for the wheels you sprayed, can you walk me through what you did? Did you have to wet-sand the clear coat and polish it?
Here's an example I found online: http://www.ehow.com/how_2182233_wet-sand-paint-car.html
You can see how bad the orange peel is before-hand. Maybe he didn't prep it correctly, but I feel that orange peel is going to be there from spray paint in glossy colors or clear coat.
Last edited by cpufreak3; 11-23-2009 at 04:34 PM.
#20
orange peel is from spraying the clear to dry,to close, or to far away from the panel. To wet and the clear wants to run off. Great jobs are hard to do in a spray can. I have worked at a body shop for almost 10 years. This is what i do i can hardly get clear in a can to look nice with out wet sanding. Op i would wet sand and buff if you can or the other thing you can do is sand it back down with 600 grit sand paper (wet) and re clear.
#21
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From: Hockessin, DE
#22
By to dry i mean the clear was sprayed to light and not enough was applyed. I would practice spraying something else to get a feel for how the clear comes out of the can. Try moving slow to fast sweeps to see what looks better. Closer and farther away from the panel also will affect how it comes out. I dont know about the can clear but at work flash time between coats if five to ten mins depending on outside temps.
#23
Simpson has it right. What the orange peeling means is that the clear coat didn't go on evenly. You need to get a more even spray and maybe a little thicker. It needs to be close to the point of dripping or running but definitely not running. It took me a couple trys to get the perfect spray.
Turns out I don't have the photos at home either, the wheels are at the shop so I'll take some when I'm there tomorrow.
Turns out I don't have the photos at home either, the wheels are at the shop so I'll take some when I'm there tomorrow.
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