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How-to: chip repair/wetsanding (and some obligatory polishing!)

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No, 2000 grit will be fine enough as long as you have the right finishing products (polish, Random Orbital Buffer, and Pads). You can polish out the haze without a buffer but will take a lot more work.
 
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Originally Posted by Castle View Post
No, 2000 grit will be fine enough as long as you have the right finishing products (polish, Random Orbital Buffer, and Pads). You can polish out the haze without a buffer but will take a lot more work.
Alright that sounds good. I bought the PoorBoys SSR 2.5 as my polish. I'm just waiting on that to arrive and I should be giving it a go this weekend. Thanks for the info.
 
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Great examples but both were black. What about metallics?
 
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Alrite. My stuff should arrive tomorrow! Shall wetsand my dried touch up paint finally. Does anyone know if I can just mix a bar of soap and water to spray on the touch up paint prior to sanding or should it be some special car soap
 
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Nothing special as long as it is a mild soap. The soap is basically for lubrication. I used my car wash soap (Maguire’s Gold). As long as you don’t use a gritty soap you should be fine. Be sure to reapply any wax or sealant as your final step because you will lose it during this process. Good luck, just take it slow and easy and you should be fine.
 
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where have people found the plastic toothpicks? oddly enough this has become the hardest thing for me to get my hands on. everywhere seems to only carry the darn wood ones.
 
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I found my plastic toothpicks at walmart, but they are "brush picks" i kust quickly cut of the brushes with a pocket knife. Although i did use a toothpick, I actually prefer the pen end of the touch up paint that you get from the dealer.
 
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where did everyone get their sanding block from and what type? The Ace Hardware here doesn't care a plain old sanding block. haven't went to Home depot or Lowes yet, mainly because it is way too far out of the way so. Will try there next though...
 
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i just bought a 2004 G35 M6 coupe and it has some chips on the front bumper, and i will have to get his a go.. thank you very much and its very nice to be a part of this forum.. thanks again.
 
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you are my hero!! now to find some free time to do this
 
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Chip repair

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Alright guys - so probably the #1 question I get here and at Autopia is "how do I repair a rock chip or deep scratch", well here is how I do it. Remember, everything in this post is my opinion only. There ARE other ways to do this and lots of different products you can use. Also, remember that trying this is at your own risk. Damaging a paint via PC is hard, but with sandpaper it's very easy. So let's start:

What you'll need:

1) Matched paint. A jar is best, a pen is ok. You can get it at a dealer or local automotive store.

2) A fine paint brush (medium bristles, fine tip), and/or a plastic toothpick.

3) Rubbing alcohol, some automotive wash soap, access to water.

4) Some sandpaper. I like Meg's unigrit 2000 and 3000. Non-unigrit and less than 2k at your own risk.

5) A sanding block. Both soft and hard work. I prefer soft as it is easier to manipulate and can go around curves.





6) Polishes. What kind of polishes will depend on if you're using a PC or not. I will be using a PC, but will include by-hand instructions.

Onward.

First make sure the car has been washed, what wash you use is up to you. How you wash it is also up to you but remember, two buckets and a quality mitt (or 3).

Second, make sure the area you're repairing is clean. By clean I mean no sealants, waxes, nothing. To do this you'll need to a) use a cleaner polish or b) (my choice), wipe with ISA:water. What's that? It's rubbing alcohol (the regular 70% kind) mixed 50:50 in a spray bottle with water. Spray the area thoroughly and wipe. Do this twice. You want *no* dirt, wax, anything in the chip.

Alright, so filling in the chip/scratch. Two ways to do this, first I will go with my choice for chips and that's using a plastic toothpick. Before I go on, there are good instructions on how to do this here: http://autopia-carcare.com/inf-paint-polish-clinic.html. I basically follow the same process. Dip the toothpick into the paint about half way up, then touch the tip of the pick to the center of the chip and capillary action will pull the paint into the chip. It will take a couple passes to level it out so let the paint dry at least 4 hours in between and be patient.

The other way is good too, but less accurate. It's good for scratches that are larger than chips and would take too long to fill in via the toothpick method. Put a little paint on to your brush (very little, immerse maybe 1/4 of the brushes tip), and touch the tip to the center of the scratch. You'll see the paint pull into the scratch. Depending on the size begin to move the brush in one direction through the scratch. Repeat this every 4 hours until you're level.

Whether or not you add a layer of clear is up to you. I normally do as I find it makes the paint match better after sanding/polishing.

Alright, so now you have a blob, sort of like this:



Or in the case of a scratch, like this:



No go have a beer and wait until tomorrow (or better yet, two days from now, then come back). This is important - let the paint dry or odds are you'll pop the chip right out when sanding.

The night before you said put the sandpaper in some water and let is soak overnight.

Alright so sanding time. This is the tricky part so go slow and be patient. Make sure the paper is tight on the block (you'll probably have to cut it) and then spray the blob with a mixture of water and some soap (just mix some in a spray bottle), spray liberally and then start sanding. I like to sand against the blob, so figure out which way the blob is longer and sand the opposite way. Sand very lightly, apply almost no pressure and try to keep the block flat. Also, sand in one direction, not back and forth. It's counter-intuitive but it helps. So swipe one way, lift, then repeat. Check your work often by wiping away with a mf towel. Before you do spray the area liberally again with the soapy water to lift up any particulates. You're done when the blob is level with the paint (as in, you can not feel it by running your finger over it gently). You'll have something that looks like this:



And you'll probably crap yourself, but you're ok. As long as you were patient and sanded lightly you will not have removed more than a fraction of your clear. For example, in the second pic above someone might say "holy smokes, you're down to the metal!", but I'm not. As a matter of fact I took a paint reading before and after and I was down less than 0.02 microns. That's under 2% of my total clear thickness. Just be careful!

Now clean the area with your ISA:water and get ready to polish.

If you're polishing by hand I hope you used uni-grit and 2500+ paper, because otherwise you're going to be really sweaty when this is over. Assuming you did go ahead and grab your polish of choice. Products I like by hand are:

Sonus SFX-2
Poorboys SSR2.5
Menzerna Intensive Polish
Meg's ScratchX

I'd start with something like Sonus SFX-2 or PB's 2.5 on a cotton applicator. Apply a dab about the size of a quarter then start to rub. You *will* need to apply pressure and move quickly. You're trying to generate heat. Repeat until the marring is gone, or 90% gone then use ScratchX to clean it up. You should have nice smooth paint, and the chip should be 100% gone.

By PC I like the same products (minus the ScratchX), or if you're in a hurry SFX-1, Menzerna PG, or PB's SSR3. I usually use SFX-2 via an orange LC pad (medium abrasive), and just polish as normal. Apply a couple dabs to the pad, work in at speed 3 for 20-30 seconds and apply enough pressure than the PC almost bogs down, then kick it to 6 and apply the same pressure until the polish flashes. One or two passes will take out 2500-3000 grit marks easily.

Now, if you have some marring that isn't coming out you can do one of two things. One, use a stronger combo of pad+polish, or two, sand again with a higher grit then polish. I like option 2 because it's quicker and works better, but if you're nervous about that try option 1 first.

When you're done clean again with isa:water then apply the wax/sealant on your choice and call it a day. Here are the afters of the chips/scratches I posted above.

The blob was in the circle.


Scratch was in the circle.



Questions, comments? You know where to find me. Some pics for your enjoyment!



Your write up was great. Not meaning to take the easy way out, I have very little free time. But, have you heard of Dr.Colorchip?
 
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Chips etc and obligatory polishing

Thanks Picus. My 04 is a magnet for little ol ladies in shopping centres that can't reverse (if they were young ladies- wouldn't mind so much!). I'll give it a go
 
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One more question. My 04 is white pearl. I would kill to get mirror finish like your pics without rubbing off the duco, which is already thin (take note Nissan). How do I do that?
 
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I recently purchased an 06 Coupe and it has a 1/10 of an inch chip in the paint on the fender and it has rust on it. What is the best way to clean the rust off? If the best way is to wet sand it do I just try to wet sand in the chip pit or feather it out and with what grit sand paper?

After I apply the touch-up paint and wet sand it smooth using 2000-3000 grit do I need to buff it smooth before I clear it? Also what kind of clear coat should I use? Just regular auto krylon clear?

I am assuming after i clear I need to wet sand again right?
Has anyone ever answered your question? I too want to know if it's better to wetsand the matching color coat just before applying clear coat is better and/or necessary. If it's just a tiny touch up I imagine applying clear touch up paint isn't even needed, however a bigger spray area will need every step done.

For spray repairs, in the past I have sanded with rough paper to get metal, putty, dry, sand, apply primer, allowed to dry, sprayed couple layers of matching color coat, allowed to dry, spray several layers of clear coat allowing them to dry, followed by wetsanding and final polishing. I was wondering if there was a better way to get it to absolutely smooth with no trace of orange peel, etc.
 

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