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Old 05-20-2008 | 09:48 AM
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Here is what this G3 event did to me: I've got hotckhis sway bars and Bilstein PSS9 coilovers on the way! muwahahahaha. Oh, Axxis Ultimate brake pads too, we'll see how those hold up.
Sounds like you're about ready to drive that car the way it was meant to be driven!

As for the Axxis pads ... not too much data on them as for track pads. The biggest comments I have seen about them is that they have been known to squeal and are very dusty. Check out the my350z track pads database thread for more...
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 09:50 AM
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Just be sure to leave the extra stuff out of the car this time.
I'll leave the trophy, cleaning supplies, and sign boards at home next time...lol

I'll have to fit one of these events into the budget.
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 10:16 AM
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I spoke to someone local who used them on his 350z at HPDEs and he liked them. He did say they were very dusty, but if they perform well I can live with teh dust. Hell for $83 how could I not give them a try?

Originally Posted by BeerViper
Sounds like you're about ready to drive that car the way it was meant to be driven!

As for the Axxis pads ... not too much data on them as for track pads. The biggest comments I have seen about them is that they have been known to squeal and are very dusty. Check out the my350z track pads database thread for more...
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 10:43 AM
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Yeah under $100 for pads on all four corners is a steal if they can handle the heat!

The pads I went with are about 4x as expensive but are supposed to be able to handle the extreme temps that a track session will bring. I think Eagles Canyon will put any brake system to the test (well except maybe those brakes on GodZilla's red beast )
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Yeah your project Mu's are rated to what temperature? something like 1 billion degrees? lol

The Axxis are only rated to 550° C (1022° F), not like your pads but still pretty decent for a newb.. what do you think?
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 12:02 PM
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I think my PMu's are actually rated to a few degrees below infinity!!! (PMu rates them to 800° C)

I didn't realize the Axxis Ult's were rated that high, I thought I read that they were good to around 900° F. All I know is that my Hawk HPS were only rated to 700° F and they practically melted at MSR last year! Those Axxis should hold up pretty well I would say.

My best advice would be to go out and bed the pads as soon as you install them according to the StopTech procedure here. The next most important part is "The rotor and, therefore, the vehicle should not be brought to a complete stop, with the brakes still applied, as this risks the non-uniform transfer of pad material onto the friction surface." With the OEM Brembo's, IMHO it is better to use the parking brake to hold the car to a stop when the brakes are very hot since the parking brake uses the inner brake shoes inside the rotor hat as opposed to locking the caliper. You still don't want to apply a lot of pressure to the p-brake when the rotors are hot but if you have to come to a complete stop this is your best bet...
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 12:05 PM
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Ok, I'm seriously considering signing up for the TDE event on 6/21-6/22!!!! That's all it takes is a few laps around the track to get the juices flowing According to their website, they are only about 25% full at this point!
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 12:57 PM
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Ok, I'm seriously considering signing up for the TDE event on 6/21-6/22!!!! That's all it takes is a few laps around the track to get the juices flowing According to their website, they are only about 25% full at this point!
Th website is never updated. Call to check. I made that mistake before.
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerViper
The next most important part is "The rotor and, therefore, the vehicle should not be brought to a complete stop, with the brakes still applied, as this risks the non-uniform transfer of pad material onto the friction surface." With the OEM Brembo's, IMHO it is better to use the parking brake to hold the car to a stop when the brakes are very hot since the parking brake uses the inner brake shoes inside the rotor hat as opposed to locking the caliper. You still don't want to apply a lot of pressure to the p-brake when the rotors are hot but if you have to come to a complete stop this is your best bet...
Im not sure what you are referring too (bedding or brakes at the track)...but NEVER use your parking brake after a track run. The best bet is trying to stop the car by coasting into your stop (VERY SLOWLY) and not using the brake and keeping it in gear. I try to get a straight line, and kill the engine then let the clutch out in first, bringing it to a stop.

Everyone at the track will tell you not to use your e-brake. That will warp the rotors easily...

With yalls talk of HPS pads...im getting a little worried...argh...
But with my 2007 Calipers, i dont have ANY options...booooo...so i just gotta deal with it.

I need to save money and get a BBK...anyone have a set sitting around? HA
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 11:08 PM
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timsam, the parking brake for the OEM Brembo's does not use the brake pads. The parking brake on the OEM Brembo setup has completely separate brake shoes setup that use the rotor hat as the drum.

The biggest worry about coming to a dead stop when your brakes are super hot is uneven pad transfer which can cause hot spots... I still don't recommend leaving the p-brake engaged when parking after a track run but I think it's fine to use when coming to a stand still after exiting the track since hot spots inside the rotor hat will not effect on pedal pulsation or driveability. This is a better alternative to holding the car still with your foot on the brake pedal...
 
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Old 05-20-2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerViper
timsam, the parking brake for the OEM Brembo's does not use the brake pads. The parking brake on the OEM Brembo setup has completely separate brake shoes setup that use the rotor hat as the drum.

The biggest worry about coming to a dead stop when your brakes are super hot is uneven pad transfer which can cause hot spots... I still don't recommend leaving the p-brake engaged when parking after a track run but I think it's fine to use when coming to a stand still after exiting the track since hot spots inside the rotor hat will not effect on pedal pulsation or driveability. This is a better alternative to holding the car still with your foot on the brake pedal...
Ah ok...that makes sense...
Just using it to stop and immediately removing it shouldnt do any harm...
 
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Old 05-24-2008 | 08:08 PM
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I wasn't a fan or ECR my first time there. But that was Feburary and there was still snow and mud all over the place. I'll try to hit it up again.

But I'm getting angry at ConceptZPerformance an taking so long delivering my BBK. Looks like I'll need to rent a Miata again for TWS on June 7th unless my brakes get delivered this Monday or Tuesday.
 
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Old 05-27-2008 | 03:10 PM
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I ran there for a promotional event in the Z last summer before they had to resurface it again. it's a GREAT track, but unforgiving if you go off like others have mentioned.

the track is built to F1 standards and is MUCH more fun to drive than MSR in my opinion. it's definitely faster. I broke 100mph on the back straight on a wet track without pushing it 100%. it's also very hard on the brakes like mentioned as well.
 
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Old 05-28-2008 | 12:34 PM
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June ECR Cancelled

Sad News...I just got an email from The Drivers Edge, and they have cancelled the June event.
 
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Old 05-28-2008 | 12:40 PM
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Howdy all!, check out our new website, all about track time,and our new race team!thx!
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