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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Suspension ???

Alright Dallas area guys I have a few questions...

After meeting some of you on Sunday night and seeing your cars... I have decided I may want to do suspension sooner then I had thought. My question is I have zero or less of a clue on how to go about this... Meaning what all I would need to get and how to install it. When I do it I want to do it right, I like the MDU's in true coilover... whatever that means... I think unless someone sets me straight in another direction. I would also want to go with sways and I was given the name Hotchkis for those. Do those work together, also what else is needed to do it right... camber kits, and ???. Like I said everyones cars looked great dropped and I need to work on my 4x4 look.

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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Also looked at Eibach pro-kit lowering kit and Eibach anti roll bars front and back would this be a good set up. Ok had to add this after posting all of a sudden I am finding more options, and coming up with more questions... What about the Hotchkis stage one set up this will also lower car. I don't want to go to low and drag this is still a DD and I have a inclined drive way I will have to fight with daily. I still want to do it right though, but thought this might me a good option. I am still learning how to search on here but like I have said I have seen some of your cars in this area and they all look wicked and figured I would be able to get some good information from the local guys.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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if u jus want about an inch drop then go with springs... if u want more options get the coilovers.. installing it is an ease... take it to Jake.. lol. all those roll bars and sway bars are necessary if ur plannin on eventually trackin ur car or if u jus really like driving fast and takin corners fast.. if u do plan on takin it to a track eventually u would probably want to go with different coilovers.. i jus dont kno how the MDU's would do on an actual track.. prolly get some Tein Basic Coils.. but thats jus my opinion.

oh ya.. and camber kits are a must if its a daily driver
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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Depends on your budget, if you can afford it and want adjustability you would go with coilovers. Depending on how low you want to go you may need a front camber kit or both. I would say go springs if you want to save cash.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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It really depends on a few things: how you drive, the look you are going for, and if you want to be able to adjust down the road.

Most will agree that the Hotchkis sways are the way to go. Research around, but I think that you will find they are the "go to" sways for our car.

As for lowering - this is where it gets more preferential. Do you drive aggressively? Do you take corners hard (or even semi-hard)? Do you plan on adjusting your stiffness or height once you drop it initially? I noticed on Sunday that you have an 05...do you know if you have the 05 sport suspension? That will also make a difference.

If you want to be able to raise or lower the car on demand, you will need coilovers. If you are a "set and forget" kind of guy, then springs might be more your style. Either way, you will be able to adjust your stiffness IF you get new shocks with your springs (like a set of Tokicos). Coilovers will always be adjustable for stiffness.

To do it right (in my opinion), you will also need to get a camber kit AT LEAST for the rear if not the front as well. Others will argue on this point, but I think that's the smartest way to do it personally. SPC makes a great combo kit for the front and rear. Other than that, you would be set from a lowering standpoint.

Hotchkis will work with any lowering setup - the only thing it would interfere with I believe would be certain exhausts.

All in all - are you going to want to adjust your height at all down the road? Answer that question first.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:53 AM
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@ VV, how much did your coils run you?

@ OP: I went with springs for my pervious G35. In my opinion, they felt rather weak. I had some body sway (taking long turns at fast speeds). Then again, i am looking for performance then looks. I do drive my car rather aggressively.

With my new G35, i will be doing coil overs. for sure
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the replies... That being said I am definitely a fan of function over form... I love the look of our cars but more so I love driving them. I would like to be able to drive it without worrying about being to aggressive. I would also like to be able to take it to the track or a road course once my back can take it. Also I am more of a set it and forget it type. I want to drop it but still want to be able to drive it hard. Kinda like a girl if she is just good to look at then what good is she she needs to be fun to play with too... And look at. So maybe the springs sways and new shocks are my best bet. So hotchkis sways what springs do I go with and shocks. Tokicos?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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If you plan on tracking your car. I would NOT go with springs. I would save for coil overs (again function over form).
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bodhi_x
Thanks for the replies... That being said I am definitely a fan of function over form... I love the look of our cars but more so I love driving them. I would like to be able to drive it without worrying about being to aggressive. I would also like to be able to take it to the track or a road course once my back can take it. Also I am more of a set it and forget it type. I want to drop it but still want to be able to drive it hard. Kinda like a girl if she is just good to look at then what good is she she needs to be fun to play with too... And look at. So maybe the springs sways and new shocks are my best bet. So hotchkis sways what springs do I go with and shocks. Tokicos?

just get to pricing everything - you will realize that you will be paying just as much for springs and shocks as you would be for coils. You CAN technically just set it and forget it BUT with coilovers - you have play with them to get "just right" - THEN you can forget it. LOL... I track my car and drift and I have to admit - coils/sways were my best investment (aside from my differential).

I will be posting threads on the next drift/auto-x event so you can come check it out. you dont have to ride (yet) cause of your back... just sit back - relax and enjoy the show..
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Ok so I want to go with coils, which ones would be best for function... i.e.: track / aggressive driving. Thanks guys I really appreciate it. Hey Jake thanks I really look forward to it sounds like alot of fun, the guys I met the other night went with you and from the sounds of it had a great time. Also when ever I do make a decision I will need some help installing. Thanks everyone.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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BC Coilovers are pretty sweet and you dont have to have deep pockets for them. Ksports are baller too.. I have D2s and I LOVE THEM. but thats me. Stance is also a great brand too.

I havent seen the longevity of MDU's and no one that I know of tracks or drifts on them so I cant really say on those - however the price is certainly affordable..

Ive installed ALL of them.. and Im ready when you get them in...
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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I know several guys riding BC Coilovers and had several cars with several different set-ups. They're sold on BC's
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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You guys rock... now I just have to put it all together. So either BC, KSport, or D2 coilovers / Hotchkis Sway bars / How about Front camber and Rear Toe / Camber.

Also will any model of the above coilovers work or are there some models or styles of those to stay away from.

Don't want to break the bank... but also don't want to regret or do it wrong and have to go back and spend more money down the road.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Just about any of those should do the trick, you can also throw tein basics in there as well at the same price range. I picked up megan front and rear cambers for 389 shipped.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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I went the route of getting springs the first go round because I too had to use my G as my DD. I had the Tenabe NF210s and they were great springs for about a 1" front and .8" drop in the rear.. However, as w/ most springs, the drop didn't look even to me in the front.. As with most springs, you have what's called the "floating front". In order to rectify this, if you want a spring set up, most people get mix match springs, like go w/ NFs in the rear (using Tenabe as an example) and DFs in the front.

All this could have been avoided if I'd have gone coils in the first place.. I would DEFINITELY advise to go coils (considering you said you wanted to do it right the first time). That's the whole beauty of coils, is that you can drop more and more as you get more comfortable w/ the drive, or leave it at it's original height since you have to DD your car. No one said you have to slam it if you get coils.. I think the added option of stiffening the ride no matter the ride height is worth its weight in gold. ESPECIALLY if you plan on tracking it anytime in the future. That's an investment for your car's future goals.

There are other brands out there of course, but the MDUs (since converting to the true coil setup) are great for the price.. Again, like E-Ban, I don't know how trackable they are, I do believe I've read of someone using them on the track.. They also make racing coils as well but they're a LOT more expensive, however, if that's your goal, money shouldn't stand in your way.

All in all, go w/ coils..

As for camber kits, I'd agree, go that route, you definitely want even tire wear and since you don't plan to have too aggressive of offsets, or drop too low, you should invest in rear and front camber kits to get recover positive camber.


Do you plan to go to the Lees meet tonight? I will more than likely show up if it's not raining and I'll show you what I mean in person..
 
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