Tested the MD 5/16" spacer at the strip
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Tested the MD 5/16" spacer at the strip
As I've promised for a long time, I finally got out to the track to test out my 5/16" MD spacer. My previous best with a Z-pipe and a slightly modified Power Duct was a 14.32@97.73mph with a 2.15 60' in density altitude (DA) conditions of around -30'. Today at the same track, the DA was 1,210' so unfortunately, the conditions were far ideal. The only changes to my car since last time out was:
1) MD spacer
2) Newer replacement Avon MS550 tires
The track setup was the same. No spare, everything out of the trunk, and a 1/4 tank of 92 octane.
Today my best run was a 14.42@99.87mph with a 2.21 60'. With a few other 14.4s@99.6+mph with low/mid 2.2 60 foots. So what I saw today tells me the DA definitely hurt my ET a bit, but my MPH was REALLY good. I almost cracked 100mph. I ran three 99.5mph+ traps. My prior best trap was 98.2mph. Unfortunately, it appears that the hacked Power Duct teamed with the spacer, does impact sub 4000rpms performance. My car felt boggy as hell off the line and my 60 foots proved that. Sitting in long lines probably didn't help either. Regardless, the spacer did help and does work, but it does appear that at least with the auto cars, initial acceleration is hurt if you've modified the intake. I reinstalled my unhacked Power Duct and the lowend does feel better. I've known the throttle response was better the spacer and stock Power Duct cover, but I just love that sound of the hacked cover
I guess with the spacer and hacked cover, the MAF isn't very happy. I wish I had brought the stock cover with me to the track. Oh well.
Well there you have it. I wish the data was better and I wish I could say the spacer improved my ET, but the difference in conditions influenced the performance negatively. The good news is the spacer did improve topend acceleration by about 1.3mph to 1.6mph, even in worse conditions.
1) MD spacer
2) Newer replacement Avon MS550 tires
The track setup was the same. No spare, everything out of the trunk, and a 1/4 tank of 92 octane.
Today my best run was a 14.42@99.87mph with a 2.21 60'. With a few other 14.4s@99.6+mph with low/mid 2.2 60 foots. So what I saw today tells me the DA definitely hurt my ET a bit, but my MPH was REALLY good. I almost cracked 100mph. I ran three 99.5mph+ traps. My prior best trap was 98.2mph. Unfortunately, it appears that the hacked Power Duct teamed with the spacer, does impact sub 4000rpms performance. My car felt boggy as hell off the line and my 60 foots proved that. Sitting in long lines probably didn't help either. Regardless, the spacer did help and does work, but it does appear that at least with the auto cars, initial acceleration is hurt if you've modified the intake. I reinstalled my unhacked Power Duct and the lowend does feel better. I've known the throttle response was better the spacer and stock Power Duct cover, but I just love that sound of the hacked cover
I guess with the spacer and hacked cover, the MAF isn't very happy. I wish I had brought the stock cover with me to the track. Oh well.Well there you have it. I wish the data was better and I wish I could say the spacer improved my ET, but the difference in conditions influenced the performance negatively. The good news is the spacer did improve topend acceleration by about 1.3mph to 1.6mph, even in worse conditions.
you guys should really look into getting a utec and self tuning it, i know you dave would love it once you figured it out.
pm me for a good price on one if you are interested. i can walk you through fully tuning it NA all by yourself so you can fully get the gains you need from bolt ons...
pm me for a good price on one if you are interested. i can walk you through fully tuning it NA all by yourself so you can fully get the gains you need from bolt ons...
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by ma_sha1
I had similar comparasions,
With spacer, 0.2 second slower than without. So I took the spacer out.
With spacer, 0.2 second slower than without. So I took the spacer out.
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by audiblemayhem
you guys should really look into getting a utec and self tuning it, i know you dave would love it once you figured it out.
pm me for a good price on one if you are interested. i can walk you through fully tuning it NA all by yourself so you can fully get the gains you need from bolt ons...
pm me for a good price on one if you are interested. i can walk you through fully tuning it NA all by yourself so you can fully get the gains you need from bolt ons...
Very similiar results to mine a few months back.
I too had poorer AD conditions with the spacer in, and still had better trap speeds but similiar ETS.
There is no doubt that the spacer adds about 8-10 hp evident by the .9mph avg increase in trap speed I experienced.
I wish I could get 60's that were consistently 2.2 or less...mine are usually 2.3
I too had poorer AD conditions with the spacer in, and still had better trap speeds but similiar ETS.
There is no doubt that the spacer adds about 8-10 hp evident by the .9mph avg increase in trap speed I experienced.
I wish I could get 60's that were consistently 2.2 or less...mine are usually 2.3
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after having the spacer in for a while and testing it at the track, would any of you recommend not getting it? Just curious as I am contemplating getting one in the near future.
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by Drtybrd61
after having the spacer in for a while and testing it at the track, would any of you recommend not getting it? Just curious as I am contemplating getting one in the near future.
Thanks for sharing your results. As indicated by your trap speeds you are making more power in worse weather. With an automatic though low end grunt is important and it did hurt your times slightly. How do you like the Avon tires in general?
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT
13.84 @ 101 (stock)
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT
13.84 @ 101 (stock)
Wow, he finally noticed. After all the argueing he did saying it made no performance impact but we all told him it did.
One of these days you will listen to people who have been testing stuff on the G35 much longer than you.
One of these days you will listen to people who have been testing stuff on the G35 much longer than you.
Originally Posted by DaveB
As I've promised for a long time, I finally got out to the track to test out my 5/16" MD spacer. My previous best with a Z-pipe and a slightly modified Power Duct was a 14.32@97.73mph with a 2.15 60' in density altitude (DA) conditions of around -30'. Today at the same track, the DA was 1,210' so unfortunately, the conditions were far ideal. The only changes to my car since last time out was:
1) MD spacer
2) Newer replacement Avon MS550 tires
The track setup was the same. No spare, everything out of the trunk, and a 1/4 tank of 92 octane.
Today my best run was a 14.42@99.87mph with a 2.21 60'. With a few other 14.4s@99.6+mph with low/mid 2.2 60 foots. So what I saw today tells me the DA definitely hurt my ET a bit, but my MPH was REALLY good. I almost cracked 100mph. I ran three 99.5mph+ traps. My prior best trap was 98.2mph. Unfortunately, it appears that the hacked Power Duct teamed with the spacer, does impact sub 4000rpms performance. My car felt boggy as hell off the line and my 60 foots proved that. Sitting in long lines probably didn't help either. Regardless, the spacer did help and does work, but it does appear that at least with the auto cars, initial acceleration is hurt if you've modified the intake. I reinstalled my unhacked Power Duct and the lowend does feel better. I've known the throttle response was better the spacer and stock Power Duct cover, but I just love that sound of the hacked cover
I guess with the spacer and hacked cover, the MAF isn't very happy. I wish I had brought the stock cover with me to the track. Oh well.
Well there you have it. I wish the data was better and I wish I could say the spacer improved my ET, but the difference in conditions influenced the performance negatively. The good news is the spacer did improve topend acceleration by about 1.3mph to 1.6mph, even in worse conditions.
1) MD spacer
2) Newer replacement Avon MS550 tires
The track setup was the same. No spare, everything out of the trunk, and a 1/4 tank of 92 octane.
Today my best run was a 14.42@99.87mph with a 2.21 60'. With a few other 14.4s@99.6+mph with low/mid 2.2 60 foots. So what I saw today tells me the DA definitely hurt my ET a bit, but my MPH was REALLY good. I almost cracked 100mph. I ran three 99.5mph+ traps. My prior best trap was 98.2mph. Unfortunately, it appears that the hacked Power Duct teamed with the spacer, does impact sub 4000rpms performance. My car felt boggy as hell off the line and my 60 foots proved that. Sitting in long lines probably didn't help either. Regardless, the spacer did help and does work, but it does appear that at least with the auto cars, initial acceleration is hurt if you've modified the intake. I reinstalled my unhacked Power Duct and the lowend does feel better. I've known the throttle response was better the spacer and stock Power Duct cover, but I just love that sound of the hacked cover
I guess with the spacer and hacked cover, the MAF isn't very happy. I wish I had brought the stock cover with me to the track. Oh well.Well there you have it. I wish the data was better and I wish I could say the spacer improved my ET, but the difference in conditions influenced the performance negatively. The good news is the spacer did improve topend acceleration by about 1.3mph to 1.6mph, even in worse conditions.
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Wow, he finally noticed. After all the argueing he did saying it made no performance impact but we all told him it did.
One of these days you will listen to people who have been testing stuff on the G35 much longer than you.
One of these days you will listen to people who have been testing stuff on the G35 much longer than you.
Give it up, Holme Slice. If you understood DA then you'd know the lag in performance was mostly due to the conditions.
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by BobbyD
How do you like the Avon tires in general?



