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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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went to the track tonight, i only got one run in with my MT 26X8X15s i pulled the plug outta the side of the brake distribution block thinking that would bypass the controls that kills the power when both brake and gas are depressed, well that didnt work, no burnout, so i pulled the brake fuse for the next run and it started raining, im sure the brake fuse will work, but i figured the plug in the distribution block would have worked...

with no burn out i pulled a 1.902 60,

i ran 13.6 at 102, i have a KnN dropin, skunk2 plenum spacer and test pipes...

cant wait to get my nitrous on here, should be looking at some solid low 12s just as it sits

oh yeah that was in 70 degree florida weather...
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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^^ Holy Crap ^^
Improve much?? Man, that is extremely impressive, the more so because of conditions.

My hat is off. Err... it would be if I wore one
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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i think i could pull mid 1.7s on the slicks, maybe even low 1.7s which should put me at 13.4ish, and i granny shifted cause it was my first run on the slicks and the hook kinda shocked me and i forgot what i was doing, bounced off the rev limiter a couple times in first, trapped mid 81s on the 1/8th, thats my highest all motor
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
More mods? And what mods would you be talking about? We share the ztube, and as far as I know, the filter as well.

That leaves me with a midpipe and crawford cats. Midpipe... bleh for performance. Sure, I lost some weight, but the 05 stock midpipe was already less than half the mass of the 04(just a guess, haven't weighed them). And just yesterday you said the crawfords were dyno proven to not do anything. In fact, they might have lost power. So you want me to take off my cats when you come down??
just kidding of course. Poking fun.

Your on stock 18's as well right? DaveB you on 17's or 16'? You just started going to the track recently with a 6spd. DaveB has been going to the track for years and years. A 6spd would really blow a 5at away at highway speeds.
Damn with some MT or even light weight 17's you would really fly!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gting
Your on stock 18's as well right? DaveB you on 17's or 16'? You just started going to the track recently with a 6spd. DaveB has been going to the track for years and years. A 6spd would really blow a 5at away at highway speeds.
Damn with some MT or even light weight 17's you would really fly!
Yeah yeah, I see that you're attempting to instigate something here. Anyways, here's my information. I'm on the Sport 17" 5 spokes (weighed in at 46lbs on my scale), I've run my "slow" 03 sedan 5AT down the track 10 times total (that's 10 passes), the car has a Z-pipe, best is a 14.32@97.8mph 2.15 60 foot on EL42s, it's done four 14.4s, two 14.3s, has trapped over 98mph on two runs, and DA conditions equaled close to sea level and not negative 1,700 feet. I have no idea what I'll run at Trey's track; however, we'll find out in February.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Yeah yeah, I see that you're attempting to instigate something here. Anyways, here's my information. I'm on the Sport 17" 5 spokes (weighed in at 46lbs on my scale), I've run my "slow" 03 sedan 5AT down the track 10 times total (that's 10 passes), the car has a Z-pipe, best is a 14.32@97.8mph 2.15 60 foot on EL42s, it's done four 14.4s, two 14.3s, has trapped over 98mph on two runs, and DA conditions equaled close to sea level and not negative 1,700 feet. I have no idea what I'll run at Trey's track; however, we'll find out in February.
coming from both cars, 5AT and 6MT, i almost think my 5AT was a bit faster 1st and 2nd gear, but i actually agree with Gting, there is no comparison in the 3rd and 4th gears of them, 4th gear is pretty sick in the 6MT as well as 3rd. the 3.3 gearing and the long 4th gear really hurts the traps, while on nitrous, i was trapping 88.0 at the 8th and running 109.5 while Quadcam with the exact same setup but a 6MT was trapping 85.5 yet still reaching 110. thats a huge difference in top end....
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by audiblemayhem
coming from both cars, 5AT and 6MT, i almost think my 5AT was a bit faster 1st and 2nd gear, but i actually agree with Gting, there is no comparison in the 3rd and 4th gears of them, 4th gear is pretty sick in the 6MT as well as 3rd. the 3.3 gearing and the long 4th gear really hurts the traps, while on nitrous, i was trapping 88.0 at the 8th and running 109.5 while Quadcam with the exact same setup but a 6MT was trapping 85.5 yet still reaching 110. thats a huge difference in top end....
I've never really found much lack of topend in my 03 5AT. The car gains 21.4-21.7mph in the last 1/8 mile which suggests some pretty decent pull. Most cars only get 18-19mph in the last 1/8 mile. On nitrous, you were gaining 21.5mph. Most stock 6MTs see 21.5-22mph in the last 1/8 and with mods they see about 22-22.5mph. It's hard to compare an NA auto G vs one with nitrous the reason being the NA auto is ideally geared for the 1/4 mile where as the nitrous G isn't and is forced to shift to 3rd. I figure my auto can attain about 101mph in 3rd before tapping the limiter. I tap the limiter about 100 feet (hard to gauge during the race) after the finish. With another 20whp, I should be set for optimal gearing, but it more power is added and I trap higher than 100-101mph, I'll have to change my plan of attack. I don't plan on getting nuts with this car though. It's a not a drag car and I plan on buying a 3rd car specifically for that purpose.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I don't plan on getting nuts with this car though. It's a not a drag car and I plan on buying a 3rd car specifically for that purpose.
What kind of car are you looking to get?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I've never really found much lack of topend in my 03 5AT. The car gains 21.4-21.7mph in the last 1/8 mile which suggests some pretty decent pull. Most cars only get 18-19mph in the last 1/8 mile. On nitrous, you were gaining 21.5mph. Most stock 6MTs see 21.5-22mph in the last 1/8 and with mods they see about 22-22.5mph. It's hard to compare an NA auto G vs one with nitrous the reason being the NA auto is ideally geared for the 1/4 mile where as the nitrous G isn't and is forced to shift to 3rd. I figure my auto can attain about 101mph in 3rd before tapping the limiter. I tap the limiter about 100 feet (hard to gauge during the race) after the finish. With another 20whp, I should be set for optimal gearing, but it more power is added and I trap higher than 100-101mph, I'll have to change my plan of attack. I don't plan on getting nuts with this car though. It's a not a drag car and I plan on buying a 3rd car specifically for that purpose.
yeah going back an reading my NA runs with my sedan, i was picking up 21.5 also, 22 one run, now thats staying in third though, my problem was actually 4th gear, i had to shift into the very bottom of it with the N20, and it never really went anywhere...

i guess thats really what i meant
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by audiblemayhem
yeah going back an reading my NA runs with my sedan, i was picking up 21.5 also, 22 one run, now thats staying in third though, my problem was actually 4th gear, i had to shift into the very bottom of it with the N20, and it never really went anywhere...

i guess thats really what i meant
Yep, a 4th gear with the stock gearing does feel a blah. The 6MT will "feel" a lot quicker than the 5AT in 4th because of the better torque multiplication. I just don't know much quick it really is. I'd love to see a 0-120mph rundown of 350Z 6MY vs 350Z 5AT or G. That would tell us the real story.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
What kind of car are you looking to get?
My goal is to find a clean and hard to find 89-93 Mustang 5.0 notchback. The plan is to set it up for autocross (k-member front, coil overs, revised links, rear disc conversion), 17" 2003+ Cobra rims, cam, heads, intake manifold, longtube headers, 3.73 gears, and big radiator. That should net low 13s pretty easily. I've always had a place in my heart for the 5.0 Stang and IMO, it's the true muscle car of my generation (I'm 31). Another possibility is a 96-97 Camaro SS 6MT.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Yep, a 4th gear with the stock gearing does feel a blah. The 6MT will "feel" a lot quicker than the 5AT in 4th because of the better torque multiplication. I just don't know much quick it really is. I'd love to see a 0-120mph rundown of 350Z 6MY vs 350Z 5AT or G. That would tell us the real story.
lets go!!! i will do it... hehe


yeah the auto would probably get pulled a car or two after 100 is my guess
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
My goal is to find a clean and hard to find 89-93 Mustang 5.0 notchback. The plan is to set it up for autocross (k-member front, coil overs, revised links, rear disc conversion), 17" 2003+ Cobra rims, cam, heads, intake manifold, longtube headers, 3.73 gears, and big radiator. That should net low 13s pretty easily. I've always had a place in my heart for the 5.0 Stang and IMO, it's the true muscle car of my generation (I'm 31). Another possibility is a 96-97 Camaro SS 6MT.
That was a good generation Mustang. It certaintly looked a lot better than some of the ones that came out after it.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Did a little analysis of my times. For this analysis, I included only the 13.8's and the 13.7.

I had 5 13.8's, and 1 13.7. Here are the 1/8th and 1/4th et's and traps
9.04@80.19 / 13.896@101.31 with a 2.157 sixty
8.987@79.59 / 13.812@102.23 with a 2.129 sixty
9.015@79.45 / 13.854@101.53 with a 2.156 sixty
8.979@79.95 / 13.791@102.22 with a 2.139 sixty
8.986@80.82 / 13.805@102.07 with a 2.165 sixty
8.983@79.73 / 13.809@101.89 with a 2.151 sixty

When I was running at the 1/8 track, DaveB and others recommended using a multiplication factor of either 1.55 or 1.54. The average factors for these times is 1.53671.

And on those runs, I gained an *average* of 21.92 mph. That tells me I've got decent top-end.
man the Z is running well, i have cold air, plenum spacer and test pipes, i am trapping 82.3 at the 1/8th mile now but only ending up with 102.5 1/4 cant wait to figure this car all out. i think my CAI is hurting the top end, not sure though but the only thing i have done since the last run, 80 1/8th mile 102 1/4 the cold air and i shortbelted the power steering....
 
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Went to the track, AGAIN. This time it was mid to high twenties. This time I had 1/4 tank of chevron(different station from last time). This time I took everything out of the trunk. Everything.

Had 16 runs.
9 runs with traps > 100.
8 runs with 2.1 60 foots.
1 run with a 2.100 sixty foot, but I missed a shift on that run, so who knows what my ET would have been.
5 runs of 13.8 ET's.
Best trap of the night: 103.16.

So, a 13.791@102.22 at roughly 25 degrees. I'm sure that's a negative density altitude, so even in "perfect" conditions, my times would be adjusted *up*. Screw that. A 13.791 is still a 13.7 to me.

So, am I going to get better times? Not in my current trim. And especially not on my all-season street tires.

Tire pressure:
31.5 in the rears

Mods:
ztube
k&n drop-in filter
350z midpipe
crawford cats

05 6MT Sedan

Nices times! What track are you running at?

2003 G35 Sedan 6MT
13.96 @ 101 (stock)
 
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