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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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why would you want to do that? the gains are very minimal for such a big project.
lol man, you have a completely wrong idea.

No one, well no one witha brain, has ever done that for "gains".

Driving a 6MT is all about fun.

To the OP, just trade it in for a 6MT. I guarantee you that, you will love it!

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAG35
actually autos have more torque.
This thread isnt about gaining anything performance wise.

And yes, 6MT's are faster than Autos when driven properly.


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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
This thread isnt about gaining anything performance wise.

And yes, 6MT's are faster than Autos when driven properly.

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most of the time, they're not.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
This thread isnt about gaining anything performance wise.

And yes, 6MT's are faster than Autos when driven properly.
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most of the time, they're not.
True.

I still have alot to learn. Most of the auto G's I've faced have taken me down at the drag strip.

But when driven properly, they're faster. I always end up getting the higher trap speed

After I become more consistent at the strip, I will be taking down stock auto G's more often.

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
This thread isnt about gaining anything performance wise.

And yes, 6MT's are faster than Autos when driven properly.


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Dude, you know that's not always true... what happened this past weekend? 4 people that don't know how to drive? Or a faster AT?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Dude, you know that's not always true... what happened this past weekend? 4 people that don't know how to drive? Or a faster AT?
Are you referring to a stock G35 Auto & stock G35 6MT?

Because if not, well, I got owned by everyone anyhow!

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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Gurgen did this swap on his Sedan, it cost him almost 6500 for all the parts and labor.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
lol man, you have a completely wrong idea.

No one, well no one witha brain, has ever done that for "gains".

Driving a 6MT is all about fun.

To the OP, just trade it in for a 6MT. I guarantee you that, you will love it!

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So let me get this straight, no one with a brain has ever switched over because of the gains? So it would be reasonable to dish out 3000-6000K for something that will give you close to no gains what so ever? wow. I do agree MT can be more fun to drive, and when driven correctly it can edge out an AT, but to spend that kind of money for a transplant of that magnitude just does not make any sense to me, sorry.

I am in no way starting another MT v AT war, believe me I have owned both types and manual is enjoyable and gives the car more of a performance feel. But to switch a car from auto to manual is just throwing money down the ****ter. Trading it in for a manual would be your best bet, even though you would still be taking a loss.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
most of the time, they're not.
very true, fact is most MT drivers can't hit their shift points consistently.
 

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Are you referring to a stock G35 Auto & stock G35 6MT?

Because if not, well, I got owned by everyone anyhow!

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I've raced similarly modded MT coupes and sedans... the thing people overlook is an AT in MM shifts way faster than MT ever will be able to - the drive train loss is there yes, but our cars have a very efficient transmission so it's not devastating... in fact I dyno respectable against MT coupes and sedans.

Autocrossing I would deff suggest MT due to the nature of shifting in that type of event. Also, I agree with most logical thinkers out here - it is foolish to swap transmissions (unless you have boatloads of modifications already in your car) - for the avg owner it makes much more sense to trade and AT car for MT car. MT is fun to drive, AT has it’s advantages too… they are both good choices for specific needs. But I think it’s a misnomer that an MT will spank an AT all the time. It just isn’t true. There have been tons of debates on these boards about this for years… so I’m nor going to perpetuate anything. I’ll just see you all on the dyno and at the track
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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I've raced similarly modded MT coupes and sedans... the thing people overlook is an AT in MM shifts way faster than MT ever will be able to - the drive train loss is there yes, but our cars have a very efficient transmission so it's not devastating... in fact I dyno respectable against MT coupes and sedans.

Autocrossing I would deff suggest MT due to the nature of shifting in that type of event. Also, I agree with most logical thinkers out here - it is foolish to swap transmissions (unless you have boatloads of modifications already in your car) - for the avg owner it makes much more sense to trade and AT car for MT car. MT is fun to drive, AT has it’s advantages too… they are both good choices for specific needs. But I think it’s a misnomer that an MT will spank an AT all the time. It just isn’t true. There have been tons of debates on these boards about this for years… so I’m nor going to perpetuate anything. I’ll just see you all on the dyno and at the track
agree 100%
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
most of the time, they're not.
On the track, no tehy aren't. You have any idea how much time you loose by having to wait for the AT lag. The direct response is soo much better for AutoX and on the track. If you are considering the drag strip, I still would argue that someone who knows how to shift properly will out perform someone with an AT. But I dunno.
 

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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With a VB and TC upgrade you have no worries when it comes to shifting even in an auto x event with an AT but again I am not here to start a war against MT's as I have an MT at home also (3000GT VR4) and they both are fun to drive.
For Gurgen it was different reason as he has a Greddy TT kit on his car so he probably considered that going MT was the best for him.

With the upgrades for the AT, even in Manumatic mode it shifts quicker than MT...just a thought.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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So let me get this straight, no one with a brain has ever switched over because of the gains? So it would be reasonable to dish out 3000-6000K for something that will give you close to no gains what so ever? wow. I do agree MT can be more fun to drive, and when driven correctly it can edge out an AT, but to spend that kind of money for a transplant of that magnitude just does not make any sense to me, sorry.

I am in no way starting another MT v AT war, believe me I have owned both types and manual is enjoyable and gives the car more of a performance feel. But to switch a car from auto to manual is just throwing money down the ****ter. Trading it in for a manual would be your best bet, even though you would still be taking a loss.
Huh?

You just basically restated my post.

Who would want to trade tranny's @ a cost of an estimated $6500 bucks (parts & labor) for minimal gains, if any?

Maybe you mis-read my post.

Yes, a trade in would be more conveniant

PS. I see where the confusion came about. After reading your posts, I responded in a way that probably confused you; I didn't really make it clear.

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
I've raced similarly modded MT coupes and sedans... the thing people overlook is an AT in MM shifts way faster than MT ever will be able to - the drive train loss is there yes, but our cars have a very efficient transmission so it's not devastating... in fact I dyno respectable against MT coupes and sedans.

Autocrossing I would deff suggest MT due to the nature of shifting in that type of event. Also, I agree with most logical thinkers out here - it is foolish to swap transmissions (unless you have boatloads of modifications already in your car) - for the avg owner it makes much more sense to trade and AT car for MT car. MT is fun to drive, AT has it’s advantages too… they are both good choices for specific needs. But I think it’s a misnomer that an MT will spank an AT all the time. It just isn’t true. There have been tons of debates on these boards about this for years… so I’m nor going to perpetuate anything. I’ll just see you all on the dyno and at the track
Completely agree. I hope you weren't mis-interpreting what I was trying to state.

There are a ton of 6MT owners who still have alot to learn at the track, including myself.

Hopefully this doesnt turn into one the same boring and childish "AT vs MT' threads.

This sounds like a challenge Can't wait to get my mods up to your specs

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