Quaife LSD
#16
02-21-2004, 07:31 PM
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Re: Quaife LSD
There are already a couple good options for those of you without LSDs. Nismo has a version of the stock 1.5 LSD that has about 20% more lock to it. This can also easily be converted to a 2-way diff. Kaaz makes a 2-way diff that is locked allmost all the time.
As an FYI, if you have heated seats; then you have an LSD. I had a couple service loaner G35 auto sedans. The 2 I've had that were leather cars(premium, bose, sunroof or all weather) had open diffs and were rediculously loose at the limit on sweepers. I then got one with no premium or sports option, but a sunroof and the all-weather package with heated seats. It was very well controlled in the corners compared to the other 2 I drive. A nice 20' long burnout verified it with 2 nice even long patches. With the window sticker in the car, it does not list an LSD as part of the all-weather package; but it is. You can also check by jack up the back end and spinning a wheel. If the opposite wheel turns in the opposite direction then it is open, otherwise it is an LSD.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
As an FYI, if you have heated seats; then you have an LSD. I had a couple service loaner G35 auto sedans. The 2 I've had that were leather cars(premium, bose, sunroof or all weather) had open diffs and were rediculously loose at the limit on sweepers. I then got one with no premium or sports option, but a sunroof and the all-weather package with heated seats. It was very well controlled in the corners compared to the other 2 I drive. A nice 20' long burnout verified it with 2 nice even long patches. With the window sticker in the car, it does not list an LSD as part of the all-weather package; but it is. You can also check by jack up the back end and spinning a wheel. If the opposite wheel turns in the opposite direction then it is open, otherwise it is an LSD.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
#18
02-21-2004, 11:08 PM
Re: Quaife LSD
Correct, concerning sedan's that is. Coupe's have alway's been avaliable with LSD with the performance tire and wheel package. Auto sedan's still do not have LSD, only the 04 6MT sedan has LSD.
All auto Z's have LSD, since their is no such thing a base auto Z.
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All auto Z's have LSD, since their is no such thing a base auto Z.
"All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.”
Edmund Burke
G35 6mt
#20
02-25-2004, 12:29 AM
Re: Quaife LSD
This is going to be the hard part.... actually getting spare diffs to send in. If we can't get one somehow maybe we should find out how much it would be to buy one and do a group chip in/donation. Just a thought. Don't know if there would even be enough people interested in a Quaife to do this.
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
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02-25-2004, 05:35 AM
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Re: Quaife LSD
Cattman in Tucson, AZ stepped up to the plate and provided a differential to Quaife to pioneer the Cattman/Quaife ATB for the Nissan Maxima application a couple years back. For his effort, Quaife designated Cattman as the exclusive provider of Quaife ATBs for that application.
Perhaps the sponsors of this board could step up and make a similar arrangement with Quaife for the G35 application...?
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'03 G35 5AT Sedan, Garnet Fire/Willow
Staggered 18" SSR GT1/Bridgestone PP S03's
Eibach Springs & Anti-Sway, Stillen 2-pc B Brakes
Stillen SS Cat-Back Dual Exhaust System
Perhaps the sponsors of this board could step up and make a similar arrangement with Quaife for the G35 application...?
(Sounds of crickets...)
'03 G35 5AT Sedan, Garnet Fire/Willow
Staggered 18" SSR GT1/Bridgestone PP S03's
Eibach Springs & Anti-Sway, Stillen 2-pc B Brakes
Stillen SS Cat-Back Dual Exhaust System
#22
02-25-2004, 11:03 AM
Re: Quaife LSD
I did already set something up with a 350Z owner when I was going to do the vlsd upgrade (before I knew Quaife would do this). I could just buy his vlsd unit for like $100 or less (it is used ~2K miles) and send it to Quaife. But the 350Z owner also said it'll be about another month before his diff upgrade is performed, so we'd have to wait.
Drew
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT / Black / Graphite / Prem / Aero
Drew
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT / Black / Graphite / Prem / Aero
#23
02-25-2004, 05:54 PM
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Re: Quaife LSD
If no auto sedans has a limited slip, how do you explain this:
This is the pic from a powerbrake roll out of an auto cold-weather-package loaner sedan. No open diff car would lay down stripes even like that.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
196110-loaner stripes.jpg
This is the pic from a powerbrake roll out of an auto cold-weather-package loaner sedan. No open diff car would lay down stripes even like that.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
196110-loaner stripes.jpg
#24
02-25-2004, 09:51 PM
Re: Quaife LSD
The stability control system does incorporate a feature called Brake LSD, where it fakes a mechanical LSD by breaking the slipping wheel to force power to the other side.
At my last autocross it was raining. I had VDC off, but the Brake LSD is the piece of it that you can't disable. I hit the gas off the line a little hard the first time and it sent both wheels spinning. I also noticed the SLIP light on the dash blinking. My car is an '03, from the era where even the 6MT's don't have an LSD. (Mine is an auto.)
At my last autocross it was raining. I had VDC off, but the Brake LSD is the piece of it that you can't disable. I hit the gas off the line a little hard the first time and it sent both wheels spinning. I also noticed the SLIP light on the dash blinking. My car is an '03, from the era where even the 6MT's don't have an LSD. (Mine is an auto.)
#25
02-26-2004, 12:24 AM
Re: Quaife LSD
Andyrnack:
That's awesome. For $100 I'm sure we could find enough people to chip in. Keep us informed. Just one question, the vlsd from the 350z is the same as the one from the sedan 6mt correct? Just making sure. Anyways thanks for the heads up.
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
That's awesome. For $100 I'm sure we could find enough people to chip in. Keep us informed. Just one question, the vlsd from the 350z is the same as the one from the sedan 6mt correct? Just making sure. Anyways thanks for the heads up.
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
#26
02-26-2004, 10:10 AM
Re: Quaife LSD
As Gsedan35 will say, the master of this topic in my opinion, the 350z VLSD core is the same as the infiniti's. However, to fit the core into a non-lsd sedan (or non-lsd 350z), you will need some additional equipment meant for an lsd: axle stubs, bearings, and oil seals (total cost new is $400).
Since Quaife will in all likelyhood produce only the "core", we will still have to buy these $400 in extra parts. So overall, this upgrade may cost $1500 (Quaife) + $400 (Nissan parts) + $400 (install) = $2300. This is basically $1000 more than a nismo lsd purchase and install. But considering the Quaife would be silent under normal street driving, but is still aggressive enough for autocrossing, it would be worth it to me.
One last bit of info: my dealer quoted me at $1600 for the new vlsd core w/ extra lsd parts, and $400 for the install.
Drew
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT / Black / Graphite / Prem / Aero
Since Quaife will in all likelyhood produce only the "core", we will still have to buy these $400 in extra parts. So overall, this upgrade may cost $1500 (Quaife) + $400 (Nissan parts) + $400 (install) = $2300. This is basically $1000 more than a nismo lsd purchase and install. But considering the Quaife would be silent under normal street driving, but is still aggressive enough for autocrossing, it would be worth it to me.
One last bit of info: my dealer quoted me at $1600 for the new vlsd core w/ extra lsd parts, and $400 for the install.
Drew
2003 G35 Sedan 6MT / Black / Graphite / Prem / Aero
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02-26-2004, 11:03 AM
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#28
02-26-2004, 11:28 AM
Re: Quaife LSD
Like an earlier post mentioned, Gsedan35 talked with a guy at Quaife and they will need a LSD core for prototyping...
I actually started the thread and got the initial interest from Quaife going, but I'm on hold waiting for Gsedan35 to talk with his contacts on getting us a LSD core to send in. The $100 350z LSD core sounds like a great next option though, I'll certainly pitch in!
Mize
Silver 03 6 Speed Sedan/Willow/Premium
I actually started the thread and got the initial interest from Quaife going, but I'm on hold waiting for Gsedan35 to talk with his contacts on getting us a LSD core to send in. The $100 350z LSD core sounds like a great next option though, I'll certainly pitch in!
Mize
Silver 03 6 Speed Sedan/Willow/Premium
#29
02-26-2004, 12:17 PM
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Re: Quaife LSD
During the burnouts(this was the longest one) I never got a slip light at all. Part of theat may be that the brake fuse was pulled(no VDC, TC or ABS). This makes powerbraking easy.
On the dyno though, we did have a problem with my coupe. Even with VDC off, the computer freeked out. The VDC, ABS and SLIP lights all came on and stayed on even when we turned the car off and restarted it. I had to make a loop around the parking lot afterwards before the system would go back to normal.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
On the dyno though, we did have a problem with my coupe. Even with VDC off, the computer freeked out. The VDC, ABS and SLIP lights all came on and stayed on even when we turned the car off and restarted it. I had to make a loop around the parking lot afterwards before the system would go back to normal.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
#30
02-26-2004, 03:26 PM
Re: Quaife LSD
andyranck: Correct... for people such as yourself and Gsedan35 who have the 2003 6MT without the stock VLSD you guys would have to buy all the extra nissan parts in order to make the Quaife or any other LSD work. But for the 04's such as myself who allready have the stock VLSD we would only have to get a core Quaife and no other extra parts, correct me if I'm wrong.
Darren
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
Darren
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium