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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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automatic transmission cooler: what do you guys think?

what do you guys think of these tranny coolers? which one do you guys think would be best? how big of one do you guys think will be sufficent size for the ocassional track use? which ones would be over kill?

B&M Racing Trans Cooler




130-70266 SuperCooler 28,000 GVW (11'' x 8'' x l.5''), $59.99


Perma-Cool Thinline Trans Coolers


771-1010 Trans Cooler 14,000 GVW $25.99
771-1011 Trans Cooler 16,000 GVW $29.99
771-1012 Trans Cooler 18,000 GVW $35.99
771-1013 Trans Cooler 20,000 GVW $35.99
771-1014 Trans Cooler 24,000 GVW $41.99
771-1015 Trans Cooler 22,000 GVW $39.99


Perma-Cool Trans Cooler


771-1305 21,000 GVW — 1-1/2'' x 7'' x 18'' Kit $76.99
771-1306 24,000 GVW — 1-1/2'' x 7'' x 21'' Kit $89.99


TCI High-Tech Performance Coolers


890-823200 3/4'' thick x 7-1/2'' wide x 12-3/4'' long $59.99
890-823500 3/4'' thick x 7-1/2'' wide x 15-1/2'' long $63.99
890-823800 3/4'' thick x 10'' wide x 15-1/2'' long $69.99


TCI Universal Trans Cooler


Coil size: 3/4''h x 7-1/2''w x 12-1/2''l $41.99
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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I think the B&M is pretty good...is that the one that is available on Summit?
In any case, unless you're really beating on it or have something like a high stall TC, I'm not sure if it's really neccessary. Probably can't hurt though
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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all of the info and stuff came from www.jegs.com

i couldnt come up with the name for summit. i knew it started witha nd s and the last word was racing but i couldnt come up with summit for the life of me. thanks
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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All the coolers you show should work. I went with the small 16,000# GVW B&M cooler as that's 3.5 times the gross vehicle weight of my sedan. Probably what sold me on the B&M unit was that they claim their ATF coolers won't overcool. While the other manufacturers unit may offer the same feature, I couldn't find where they said so.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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what do you mean by overcool? how can it overcool? what would happen if it did overcool?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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I talked to Andre at Edge Racing Converters about a cooler . He said if your motor doesnt run hot , you dont need one . If it does ...he suggested getting only the ones that have a thermastat in it . Running to cool of fluid can hurt performance
 
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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I agree, if the car isn't heavily modded and putting alot of additional heat to the tranny, just let it be.

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If something is too cool, it'll won't be running at optimal levels. Think of if someone put some sort of massive oil cooler and it somehow got the oil to run cold the whole time...it probably wouldn't be very good. That was a dumb example but hopefully it gets the idea across.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Any of those should work. Any heat taken out of the tranny is good, and would add to its life, especilly if raced.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsedanman
Any of those should work. Any heat taken out of the tranny is good, and would add to its life, especilly if raced.
C.
Well said... as long as ATF isn't overcooled.

As stated above I've installed a B&M ATF Cooler - pictured below. Along with that I have an Edge Racing Torque Converter (I've talked with Andre at length) and a Stillen Valve Body upgrade. This combination of mods works well for me.

For those who missed Keepin' the VQ Cool in the Spring Issue of Sport Z here are a couple of pictures of the stock AT radiator. Note the core thickness and AT cooler connections.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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The real question is......

How hard do you drive your car? Do you really pound it? If not, this mod is probably of little to no value for you.
 
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