MREV2 vs. Spacer 5AT Questions

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Aug 18, 2006 | 08:47 AM
  #1  
Hey all, I've been searching trying to find the answer but with all of the threads about MREVS, still havent found it, atleast not for a Non - RevUp engine.

I currently have a Iso Thermal 5/16 Plenum Spacer. I am not sure whether I should install that OR should I purchase the MREV2 and install that. I would do both but I have no idea what I have to do in order to make it work. I heard a bunch of guys says something about a air fuel ratio but I really have no idea what that means.

Will there be greater gains installing the SPACER or the MREV2... FOR A 05 G35C 5AT, NON REV UP... ?

Also if you can DUMB IT DOWN FOR ME... What needs to be done to make both work together?


Thanx guys, and I definately searched but all results have been pointing to 6MT's and people saying they are going to do the setup and never posting results (if they ever did it)
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Aug 18, 2006 | 10:14 AM
  #2  
I have both but haven't install them yet.

I'll soon to when I have time with the headers and custom headerback.

Look forward to my review / Dynos on G35Frenzy.com
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Aug 18, 2006 | 10:26 AM
  #3  
I have non Rev-ups and put 5/16th MD spacers and iso thermal gaskets on both. I could tell a difference. I don't know much about the MREV because it's my understanding that it only really works for Rev-up motors, but I could be mistaken.
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Aug 18, 2006 | 11:47 AM
  #4  
The MREV2 will work on rev up and non rev up engines.

You do not want to put the MREV2 plus a spacer on without the ability to tune as you will lean out too much.

That's my understanding anyway. I have just the 3/8" isothermal spacer on my 04.5 5AT.
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Aug 18, 2006 | 12:22 PM
  #5  
Quote: The MREV2 will work on rev up and non rev up engines.

You do not want to put the MREV2 plus a spacer on without the ability to tune as you will lean out too much.

That's my understanding anyway. I have just the 3/8" isothermal spacer on my 04.5 5AT.
As in reflashing ECU or what?
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Aug 18, 2006 | 01:21 PM
  #6  
spacer should be enough.
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Aug 18, 2006 | 02:30 PM
  #7  
You won't have a leaning out problem just by adding a lower plenum and a spacer. Your ECU will adjust.
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Aug 18, 2006 | 03:54 PM
  #8  
So NO ONE would pick just having the MREV2 or having the spacer?
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Aug 18, 2006 | 03:59 PM
  #9  
If you had to pick one over the other, I'd think you would get more benefit from the spacer, since it corrects the problem with less air getting to the two front cylinders. The MREV may smooth things out, or whatever it does, but it still won't correct that major flaw.
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Aug 18, 2006 | 11:58 PM
  #10  
There is a huge thread describing the MREV in great detail either here or on my350z.com. Try and search for it, specifically for the user Hydrazine.

If you have a non rev-up, you can do either MREV2 or the spacer. Both give good gains across the board. The spacer will help airflow to the front two cylinders. I believe MREV2 optimizes airflow in the lower plenum and helps equalize length of the intake runners further.

If you do MREV2 and a spacer on a non-revup, it is recommended to have some kind of aftermarket engine management (e.g. reflash or something like a UTEC). Since i've already flashed through Technosquare, I'd slap MREV2 and the 5/16 on. Dyno it. Then take the dyno to technosquare to tune. If you are starting from scratch:

1. Dyno
2. If you are too lean, I'd invest in a UTEC and get it tuned.
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Aug 21, 2006 | 09:09 AM
  #11  
Thanx guys
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Aug 23, 2006 | 02:45 AM
  #12  
According to Tony Colette @ Motordyne Engineering, a spacer/mrev2 combo will not make you run lean unless you're already running lean to start. Here are a copy of some emails we exchanged:

Quote:
: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 1441 -0700

Hi Darrin,



Yes that’s good enough.



And no, the combination won’t make you run lean unless you are already lean or very close to it. With the wbo2 and emanage, you will be doing great with it.





Thank you,

Tony Colette

Motordyne Engineering





-----Original Message-----
From: Darrin T [mailto:dtorc4@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:46 PM
To: info@motordyneengineering.com
Subject: RE: Inquiry form MotordyneEngineering.com



Tony,



Thanks for the info. If I attach this email and a scan of my military ID, and send it you from my army email address, will that be sufficient proof?



I have a couple of tech questions. I've read on the forums that an MREV2 & 5/16 spacer combo (I already have the spacer) will cause a non-revup engine to run lean without tuning. While I do appreciate the importance of tuning, and have a wbo2/emange basic setup, I wanted to see if you guys have any definite information regarding this.



Thanks again,



Darrin
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Aug 24, 2006 | 04:14 AM
  #13  
Quote: According to Tony Colette @ Motordyne Engineering, a spacer/mrev2 combo will not make you run lean unless you're already running lean to start. Here are a copy of some emails we exchanged:

Thats a given fact. With no mods on the car the car runs rich up top. Now u add i/e/h to your car then of course its going to run lean from the start if u install the mrev2+ spacers.

Only way your car wont run lean is if u install ONLY mrev2/spacers period.
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Aug 25, 2006 | 04:06 PM
  #14  
Quote: Thats a given fact. With no mods on the car the car runs rich up top. Now u add i/e/h to your car then of course its going to run lean from the start if u install the mrev2+ spacers.

Only way your car wont run lean is if u install ONLY mrev2/spacers period.
sorry but you're wrong. these kinds of mods do NOT lean out your engine. allowing your engine to breathe easier has nothing to do with the air/fuel mixture. people should stop talking about things they dont understand.
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Aug 30, 2006 | 03:58 PM
  #15  
What does it mean to run LEAN anyway...
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