Changed my oil yesteday and previous owner started running synthetic at 60,000 miles. I have 80,000 miles on my 03 and I went to Valvoline higher mileage synthetic. It is recommended for engines with 75k and over and it cost the same as the other syns. Don't know if it makes much difference but it can't hurt I don't guess? Anyone else used this kind of oil?

 

Dude, it's fine.... I used Valvoline on my civic before, but I changed to Mobil 1 due to the fact that their oil is cleanest. Next time try Mobil ! full synthetic either 5W30 or 10W 30.

 

"Their oil is cleanest"? Explain please?

 

What I meant by cleanest was when the oil has been used. Each competitive company uses their own formulated properties within the oil as an additive while the oil is in use such as internal combustion engines... The oil suppose to provide cleaning, corrosion protection, and reduce friction and provide cooler temperature.... That's what meant by cleanest.... I didn't mean by cleanest as whole refinery process.... BR

 

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What I meant by cleanest was when the oil has been used. Each competitive company uses their own formulated properties within the oil as an additive while the oil is in use such as internal combustion engines... The oil suppose to provide cleaning, corrosion protection, and reduce friction and provide cooler temperature.... That's what meant by cleanest.... I didn't mean by cleanest as whole refinery process.... BR

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Clean oil might be mainly determined by the quality and performance of the air and oil filtration used in the engine, more than the oil itself.

Steve
Hi-Tech Oil Co.

 

I think there was a sticky here somewhere that actually said something else protected your engine a bit better.

 

 

My point was has anyone used the higher mileage synthetics compared to regular synthetics? What do they have in them that the regular ones don't?

Funny I have been thru a jillion threads on what oil to use for bikes. Personally I use synthetic gold cap Mobil 1 15-50 for my CBR1000rr. As long as you change it regularly then I think any of them are really good. Of course some are better than others by a small margin but I would think that the same holds true for cars?

 

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My point was has anyone used the higher mileage synthetics compared to regular synthetics? What do they have in them that the regular ones don't?

Funny I have been thru a jillion threads on what oil to use for bikes. Personally I use synthetic gold cap Mobil 1 15-50 for my CBR1000rr. As long as you change it regularly then I think any of them are really good. Of course some are better than others by a small margin but I would think that the same holds true for cars?

These new, "high mileage", oils are supposed to have special additives in them, but the more additives present in the oil, the less overall lubrication that is available. I have a strong suspicion that it is mostly marketing.

I agree with you that most of the discount auto parts store available oils don't offer very much differences. But there are much better oils available than what can be found at the discount auto parts stores, just as there are much better cars available than what is offered down at, "Joe Schlabotnik Chevrolet", (no offense to Chevrolet).

Steve
21 year independent AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants Dealer

 

You are probably right in that it is all marketing...lol. To be honest if the price was higher for the higher mileage oil I was not falling for it. As long as the viscosity is the same then that is the most important AND it is a good oil from a reputable company. We all know that Valvoline, Penzoil, and Mobil 1 are good oils.

 

Lubrication will not be affected by no means of more additive being mixed with the oil.... Viscosity protection within the walls of the cyllinders happens by shear stress acting on the oil molecules (Oil molecules are the one that provide protection again any friction rubbing on the actual surface). As the movement of the piston moves up and down, the molecules gets cut (Sheared off )... As long as there are no thermal breakdown (Which means that there are no lubricant molecules due to high temperature present), there will be lubricant available to protect against any surface to surface contact. Now, adding additive will enhance the molecules (Strengthen the properties of the actual chemical bonding)... This doesn't mean that you are replacing the molecules with formulated molecules.... I'm sure that they did some engineering analysis on the actual formula regarding to high mileage protection that they claim... But the main reason I said Mobil 1 was superior out of others was because I work at paper mill and Turbine Generators uses very clean refined oil where air entrainment within the oil specification is very strict which Mobil 1 was only manufacturer who met the specification. BR

 

Just because you have over 75,000 miles on your engine doesn't mean it automatically needs "high mileage" oil. It's more dependant on what condition the engine is over anything else. Looks like the previous owner took good care of it. I would have used the same unless there was a specific reason (other than mileage) to switch. There's probably no harm in switching. But I'm not familar with Valvoline's additive package for this oil. Is it thicker? What weight did you buy? 10w 30? 15w-40?

 

From- "Synthetic Oil: Rx For Long Engine Life", by Curt Scott - http://www.getahelmet.com/jeeps/tech/syntheticoil/

"(1) Additives, which may account for as much as 25% of the volume of a can of premium petroleum oil, by themselves have little or no lubricating properties per se. Thus the more the additive content in an oil, the less lubrication is available to the engine."

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I'm sure that they did some engineering analysis on the actual formula regarding to high mileage protection that they claim...

Might it be possible that the same additive package is present in non-"high mileage oil", but just marketed differently?


With all due respect, if you could clarify, are you stating that M1's automotive oil, (that is available to motorists), is being used in a paper mill in a turbine generator, or are you stating that a specially formulated version of M1 for use in this equipment was developed for industrial use? Further, you mentioned that, "Mobil 1 was only manufacturer who met the specification". So are you stating that all automotive oils on the market were evaluated for this specification, or that the M1 for this application was specifically formulated to meet this specification, (and other oil manufacturer's didn't do this), for use in an industrial setting in a stationary piece of equipment and not for automotive use?

Also, what exactly is this specification number you refer to? Exactly what kind of equipment is this? I would like to look this up.

Lastly, might it be that the environment of a stationary turbine generator doesn't replicate the rigorous environment of an automotive engine and might possibly be comparing apples with oranges?


Steve
21 year independent AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants Dealer

 

Mobil makes a series for heavy equipment such as found in a paper mill.
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...Collection.asp

We all know what he meant (at least I did). Plus it took a total of about 30 seconds to find the above info. Probably less time for you to actually reply.

Still think Mobil 1 is a real synthetic?

 

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