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Originally Posted by officerdbag
Please stop trying to argue about this 91 crap.... the 3.5 in the maximas and altimas, plus many other different VQ motors do not recommend the 91 octane yet its the same motor..
but to answer the original question truthfully, you will be fine with regular grade as long as you dont lay on the throttle. even if you do have a lead foot, nissan/infiniti installs knock sensors on all the VQ motors to detect pinging and will automatically retard the timing to protect itself
Last edited by erklep; Dec 22, 2008 at 10:07 PM. Reason: mahhhbahhhddd!
Originally Posted by officerdbag
Please!!!! the "tune" is very very minimal.. Barely makes a different... Don't call my posts "BS" because I've gone ahead and done all this myself personally and experienced it... Lets not forget that I was running 87 in 120+ temps in AZ.. Felt no difference and saw no difference in MPG either... no "pinging" or "knocking"
You're BS.
You're BS.
Originally Posted by officerdbag
Please!!!! the "tune" is very very minimal.. Barely makes a different... Don't call my posts "BS" because I've gone ahead and done all this myself personally and experienced it... Lets not forget that I was running 87 in 120+ temps in AZ.. Felt no difference and saw no difference in MPG either... no "pinging" or "knocking"
You're BS.
You're BS.
Unless you have proof other than, "Look ma, I did it and it works!" do us all a favor and keep your rude and retarded comments to yourself.
Proof is at the track I ran my second best time STOCK on 87 octane (14.6)... rather than 3.9 gears, intake manifold, CAI, exhaust and test pipes which I ran a 14.5
Thats proof for me right there.
Thats proof for me right there.
Originally Posted by officerdbag
Proof is at the track I ran my second best time STOCK on 87 octane (14.6)... rather than 3.9 gears, intake manifold, CAI, exhaust and test pipes which I ran a 14.5
Thats proof for me right there.
Thats proof for me right there.
Originally Posted by Canadian
Again, good for you. Keep running 87 in your car. Like I said, I could careless. All I know is it is a simple fact our cars do require 91 octane. Whether or not you believe it is your own damn fault.
Originally Posted by officerdbag
Proof is at the track I ran my second best time STOCK on 87 octane (14.6)... rather than 3.9 gears, intake manifold, CAI, exhaust and test pipes which I ran a 14.5
Thats proof for me right there.
Thats proof for me right there.
Stop spreading FUD...
Last time I put 87 in my G it pings like crazy and had a noticable drop in power.
Either you aren't really driving a G, your G is fubar'd, or your ears are blocked...
Last time I put 87 in my G it pings like crazy and had a noticable drop in power.
Either you aren't really driving a G, your G is fubar'd, or your ears are blocked...
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Originally Posted by officerdbag
Please stop trying to argue about this 91 crap.... the 3.5 in the maximas and altimas, plus many other different VQ motors do not recommend the 91 octane yet its the same motor..
To the OP: Putting a tank of 87 gas isn't going to destroy your engine. But I recommend you just drive it normal. Lower octane may produce knocking on this engine (especially if you have a revup, where it explicitly states premium gas is REQUIRED). Once you put 91 back on and the 87 is out of your fuel lines/gas tank, it should drive like normal. Don't stress it...your engine will survive
Originally Posted by erklep
track times can show a difference of a full second depending on temperature,conditions of the track,which track and trap software is used. what were your traps for each run? that will also tell us if it was driver error or track issues. 1/10th of a second faster could have all been just a matter of wheel spin or getting hung up on a gear
Originally Posted by erklep
easy explanation... the vq in the G is bored larger, smaller stroke, and higher compression. you cannot honestly say that your motor performs the same running 87 as it does running 91 or 93.
but to answer the original question truthfully, you will be fine with regular grade as long as you dont lay on the throttle. even if you do have a lead foot, nissan/infiniti installs knock sensors on all the VQ motors to detect pinging and will automatically retard the timing to protect itself
but to answer the original question truthfully, you will be fine with regular grade as long as you dont lay on the throttle. even if you do have a lead foot, nissan/infiniti installs knock sensors on all the VQ motors to detect pinging and will automatically retard the timing to protect itself
Regardless, both of our cars get premium fuel only.
*EDIT* Per the owner's manual, if the wrong octane gas is used it is recommended that at 1/2 tank premium fuel be used to top off the tank.
Last edited by PAIXAO; Dec 22, 2008 at 04:09 PM.
Originally Posted by TwilightBlue
Ummm, last I checked, bore, stroke and compression specs were the same on my brothers 2002 3.5 Altima and my 2004 G35.
Regardless, both of our cars get premium fuel only.
*EDIT* Per the owner's manual, if the wrong octane gas is used it is recommended that at 1/2 tank premium fuel be used to top off the tank.
Regardless, both of our cars get premium fuel only.
*EDIT* Per the owner's manual, if the wrong octane gas is used it is recommended that at 1/2 tank premium fuel be used to top off the tank.
but yes either way, always run premium. there have been many tests proving that the extra few pennies spent on premium will outweigh the pennies you save by burning cleaner for less maintenance, and extra mpg
Last edited by erklep; Dec 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM.
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I personally measured the difference on the dyno.
Compared to 91 octane as the baseline, 96 octane produced a good clean 8-10 HP more power over almost the entire power curve. And the car ran beautifully with the higher octane. You can really feel the difference.
You can put 87 octane in your tank too, but if you do, don't punch it. 87 octane will be OK if you are really light on the gas pedal and cruise lightly.
If you do punch the gas with 87 octane, its guaranteed to ping. The ECU will hear the ping via the knock sensors and retard the timing in response. ...but reduced timing reduces power and fuel efficiency.
Compared to 91 octane as the baseline, 96 octane produced a good clean 8-10 HP more power over almost the entire power curve. And the car ran beautifully with the higher octane. You can really feel the difference.
You can put 87 octane in your tank too, but if you do, don't punch it. 87 octane will be OK if you are really light on the gas pedal and cruise lightly.
If you do punch the gas with 87 octane, its guaranteed to ping. The ECU will hear the ping via the knock sensors and retard the timing in response. ...but reduced timing reduces power and fuel efficiency.
-04 coupe 3.5(i own one)G35-95.5 mm bore, 81.4 mm stroke, 10.3 compression ratio
-02 altima 3.5 (brother owns one)-89 mm bore, 100 mm stroke, 9.5 compression ratio
but yes either way, always run premium. there have been many tests proving that the extra few pennies spent on premium will outweigh the pennies you save by burning cleaner for less maintenance, and extra mpg
-02 altima 3.5 (brother owns one)-89 mm bore, 100 mm stroke, 9.5 compression ratio
but yes either way, always run premium. there have been many tests proving that the extra few pennies spent on premium will outweigh the pennies you save by burning cleaner for less maintenance, and extra mpg
2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe Specs Per Infinitihelp.com
2002 Nissan Altima 2.5 & 3.5 Specs Per Nissanhelp.com
2002 Nissan Maxima Specs Per Nissanhelp.com
2006 Nissan 350Z Specs Per Nissanhelp.com
All specs for the VQ35 are the same with regards to bore, stroke and compression. The specs you listed are for the Altima 2.5
Premium Unleaded Fuel Is Recommended For All These Vehicles Per Manufacturer. You can put 87 Octane in them, but as stated before the ECU will pull timing to compensate with a loss of power and performance as a result.




