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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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If I remember correctly, the Amzoil 0W30 IS NOT API certified and does not carry the API seal.



If this is true, an "oil related" engine failure (i.e. OC issue) would not be covered under the factory waranty.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Amsoil 0w 30 is API SM/CF, SL, SJ.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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I would never go that long on any oil. I don't care what they say... 3-5k at most IMO. If you are very nice to your car I can see 5-7k.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wingsprint410
Amsoil 0w 30 is API SM/CF, SL, SJ.
Yes, Amsoil "states" that this oil is RATED for that service, but it does NOT have the API seal on the bottle. Therefore it has not been tested and approved by the API for that service.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Yes, Amsoil "states" that this oil is RATED for that service, but it does NOT have the API seal on the bottle. Therefore it has not been tested and approved by the API for that service.
Interesting... My personal opinion- that is somewhat deceptive advertising on their part.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
Yes, Amsoil "states" that this oil is RATED for that service, but it does NOT have the API seal on the bottle. Therefore it has not been tested and approved by the API for that service.
From this explanation, I'd rather use Amsoil because it is not API certified than use an oil that is API certified. Basically means they don't want to be certified when it could and will hurt the performance/quality of the oil.

http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/api_licensing.htm

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Interesting... My personal opinion- that is somewhat deceptive advertising on their part.
Amsoil never says they are certified. How is that deceptive advertising??
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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I understand them not wanting to spend the money (100K I think) to do this.

Everyone just remember; if it does not have the API seal (see my first post above), it HAS NOT been tested and rated by the American Petroleum Institute. That does NOT mean the oil is inferior, it just means it has not been tested by the API labs.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Amsoil never says they are certified. How is that deceptive advertising??
Amsoil has two oils that ARE certified, the 5W30 (the weight recommended by Infiniti) and one other, can't remember which.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
Amsoil has two oils that ARE certified, the 5W30 (the weight recommended by Infiniti) and one other, can't remember which.
I meant the ones that are not API certified, so they're not falsely advertising anything.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SwanyJr
I've heard very good things about Amsoil. I checked out some other oils and ultimately decided on Amsoil, mainly for the rep on their 0w-30 syn oil. How long are you running the gold GC in ur motor before you swap it out? and I have no idea what an UOA is? Im guessing it messures oil particles or something?
Since I drive roughly 10K miles per year, the OCI will be roughly 5K miles.

UOA = Used Oil Analysis
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wingsprint410
Cut and paste from the G35 Factory Service Manual:

SAE Viscosity Number ALS0006I
GASOLINE ENGINE OIL
SAE 5W-30 viscosity oil is preferred for all temperatures. SAE
10W-30 and 10W-40 viscosity oil may be used if the ambient
temperature is above -18°C(0°F)

A major auto company spends millions of dollars and untold hours developing an engine. Based on this research and development, guys in white lab coats with engineering degrees specify a oil that will maximize engine longevity and performance. Then, after spending twenty to forty thousand dollars on a G35, some think it is a good idea not to follow oil specified by Nissan. Incredible..

0w-30 Amsoil? Have fun with your science experiment. My money is on the guys in the lab coats.

Not trying to start a flame war, I am trying to make a point- Stick with with Nissan's recomendations...
With what you're saying, going with 0w-30 is bad..

Why, especially when it has better cold flow viscosity rating (0w), the same 100 degrees Celsius viscosity rating (30) when compared to 5w-30 or 10w-30 , or thinner at both ends of the spectrum when compared to 10w-40?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by geronimomoe
With what you're saying, going with 0w-30 is bad..

Why, especially when it has better cold flow viscosity rating (0w), the same 100 degrees Celsius viscosity rating (30) when compared to 5w-30 or 10w-30 , or thinner at both ends of the spectrum when compared to 10w-40?
Not at all! 0w30 is fine- but might be a problem in car that its manufacturer specifies a different viscosity. Again, I am trying to make a point- Stick with with Nissan's recomendations...
 
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Canadian
Amsoil never says they are certified. How is that deceptive advertising??
Stating that a product meets API certification standards, but failing to mention that it is not actually certified by API, in my book is somewhat deceptive for the average consumer.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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For the Climate I live in, Upper Midwest, 0w-30 is perfect for me. I think there is a little gray area between being "rated" and having an actual API certified stamp. Thats why you have to do the research when buying an oil that's not your typical "walmart Brand."
 
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