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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Talking Upgrade Paths!!!

Hey everyone as you can see im new here, this is actually my first post and before anybody comes and leaves retarded replays im going to say I used the Search feature already ... Ive subscribed to lots of forums ... Most of this forums had power paths I dont see how come this one doesnt have one sticky .. Everything is on different places it would be nice if someone sticky a complete power path with dynos, types of path like F/I or Nitrous and what to expect from this mods.. I already kno about the Plenum, headers, exhaust, spacers, throtle body etc.. but lets say someone writes up all these in order so newbs like me know what to go for first..
 
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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I think we have a sticky off 1/4 mile times with FI, Nitrous, stock, etc. Try in the "Motorsports" section.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Thanx but ive seen it and it doesnt help 2 much.. well not in this case.. i mean something like this but for our car...

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f70/...de-path-27550/

ive seen this on the mustang forums on the srt and on many others lets get one going on for the VQ
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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anyone? at least add some modds and put them in the order you think you should buy them in.. maybe somebody will eventually make a write up and hopefully made it a sticky..
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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you do realize that list is for turbo cars,where you can easily add power with bolt-ons. Bolt-ons for our cars don't really do that much at all unless you tune the car. Our engines are already extremely compressed. As far as that list goes, it really shows you less than what our 1/4 mile times with bolt-ons do. They have a 3" CAI listed on there, you realize as far as intakes alone go the G35 has Stillen, Amuse, AEM, Injen, JWT, R2C, Weapon R, KN. As far as exhuasts go there are even more companies, and every single person belives there to be a different outcome from every bolt on. Its impossible to put together a general info thread with this.

Nitrous will do whatever the kit you bought is made to do. FI will do whatever your tuner can get it to do. An intake will make your car sound better, which intake depends on what sound you want. Theres really no need for any more threads about this.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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yeah i get your point and i understand that list is for a turbo car and the car will mame more power by just adding a few bolts on but the reazon i want a list its because theres more bolts on than just an intake headers and an exhaust.. for example the plenum i had no idea it existed until i bought the g35 and came here looking for info.. i kno theres a lot of other bolts on and thats what i want to get to.. i wanna kno how much to add before i tune ''bolt-ons''
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DaVinci87x
yeah i get your point and i understand that list is for a turbo car and the car will mame more power by just adding a few bolts on but the reazon i want a list its because theres more bolts on than just an intake headers and an exhaust.. for example the plenum i had no idea it existed until i bought the g35 and came here looking for info.. i kno theres a lot of other bolts on and thats what i want to get to.. i wanna kno how much to add before i tune ''bolt-ons''
Because in the NA mod world, 1+1 does not equal 2. For instance, say, a spacer alone will make 10 hp. Headers alone will make 10hp. But if you get a spacer and header, you will only get 13 hp. Those numbers are just made up examples, but it is simply more complicated without a simple, restricted turbo to unleash.

Also, turbo kits on our cars vary greatly in the amount of hp they put down and the price, so there's no real way to say how much it will cost for the amount of hp you will gain.

There's so many different mods out there that it is really hard to put down a list, and everyone wants something different. Personally, I'm going to do 4.083 gears before anything.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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well u said it 1+1 = 1 1/2 lol, but what makes you go for the gears first?.. everything has a way and a reazon, and thats what i want ppl to post in this thread. Some say spacer , some manifold, some test pipes, some exhaust.. but see whats the point to put an exhaust if u might end up doing F/I then u got to replace it or do custom work or maybe its not even worth it cuz is not enough flow.. but lets say someone wants to add some power without making the car F/I and well not just putting a NOS kit .. what would it be? and thats when you get to the mods i started the thread with..
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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dude the forum is fine without all that, you seem to be the only one confused by our concept here. so far you have come here and contributed nothing but incomprehensible sentences.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaVinci87x
well u said it 1+1 = 1 1/2 lol, but what makes you go for the gears first?.. everything has a way and a reazon, and thats what i want ppl to post in this thread. Some say spacer , some manifold, some test pipes, some exhaust.. but see whats the point to put an exhaust if u might end up doing F/I then u got to replace it or do custom work or maybe its not even worth it cuz is not enough flow.. but lets say someone wants to add some power without making the car F/I and well not just putting a NOS kit .. what would it be? and thats when you get to the mods i started the thread with..
Gears make the car much faster, but also the shifts are closer together, and you lose some top speed. The people who have them love them, it's a pretty rare mod.

If you want power the conventional way, go with the spacer and an exhaust, whatever else you want and a tune. There's not a whole lot you can do NA, because our cars engines are running very high from the factory.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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lol

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dude the forum is fine without all that, you seem to be the only one confused by our concept here. so far you have come here and contributed nothing but incomprehensible sentences.
Im not confused!! All i wanted to kno is the most N/A mods possibles before tunning. And no i have contributed nothing cuz i guess the one lost now is me, but you just lost 10 mins of your life and still dont think you know more than i do by just looking at your replay!!
Thanx to the ones that try to help.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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There is no "most". You could get a tune after every mod, or never get one. I think the frustration for the other posters in this thread is that while you say you used the Search feature, it doesn't appear you did a whole lot of actual reading. As for any specific order, most people go with the mods that have the highest bang/buck ratio first. If you've done any reading here, you'll know what those are (hint: they're on the intake side of things). Once you get to the exhaust side, the prices jump dramatically. So far, all of my mods have cost only about half of what a low-end exhaust setup would cost (without headers). And if you're going to start replacing engine internals, not only is the price high, but the workload is very high as well. But these are strictly HP/TQ related items. I haven't mentioned suspension mods.

There is no definitive list of performance mods you should do. There are a few key items, but after that, too many factors come into play, like cost and personal preference. And personal preference might be keeping it looking stock vs. slamming it, a smooth ride vs. running on rails, a particular exhaust note vs. a performance exhaust. That's the beauty of the G, there are many options available. You have to decide what is best for you.
 

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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I think it really comes down to what YOU believe will make your car FEEL faster for you. Some people take an intake over an exhuast because they are happy with the OEM exhuast sound and do not wish to have anything louder for many different reasons. Some people go with gears over everything else first because they believe the potention of the VQ35DE is perfectly fine and it will do better with some different gears, which will help out on acceleration a bit.

If you really used the search feature and read, you would have seen that most people limit the bolt-ons at a certain point before getting a tune. just about everyone agree's with Intake/Plenum/Exhuast/HFC - Headers then a tune so you do not risk running overly lean from all the breathing mods.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalp3n
I think it really comes down to what YOU believe will make your car FEEL faster for you. Some people take an intake over an exhuast because they are happy with the OEM exhuast sound and do not wish to have anything louder for many different reasons. Some people go with gears over everything else first because they believe the potention of the VQ35DE is perfectly fine and it will do better with some different gears, which will help out on acceleration a bit.

If you really used the search feature and read, you would have seen that most people limit the bolt-ons at a certain point before getting a tune. just about everyone agree's with Intake/Plenum/Exhuast/HFC - Headers then a tune so you do not risk running overly lean from all the breathing mods.

Well all you are saying is just common sence i guess. And yeah i did use the search feature cuz this thread is now right where i started it lol like i said. Plenum/Exhaust/Headers. So yeah. Anyways I have another question.

I havent decided if i will go F/I or Nos or S/C but i definetly want an HKS Hi Power exhaust. If i get it will it be an obstacle later on. Will i have to replace it?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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There is no need to flame this guy, I was hoping for the same kind of "Power Primer" guide as I've also seen on other forums. This request is not illogical. What *does* make sense to me is someone at a shop with documented dyno runs after every mod... For reference here is the MR2 power primer, it's a great read - http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm


"... just about everyone agrees with Intake/Plenum/Exhuast/HFC - Headers then a tune so you do not risk running overly lean from all the breathing mods."

Above is great info - but how much should I be expecting to see at the crank, and at the wheels after this work? If I'm only at 320 HP then maybe I don't want to spend the $500-$1500 for another 20 HP. This is the kind of data I'd like to make an informed decision about modifying the car.

A big mistake IMHO is to start modifying the car without a clear goal in mind. For example, my goal is 350 crank HP. But with the data at hand right now, I don't know if the above mods will bring me there, or (hopefully) past it.
 
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