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Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

Hey guys,

I've heard of so many nightmare stories of people's shocks getting blown (my friend's PRelude, and Civic) w/ aftermarket springs and stock SHOCKS...

I was always under the assumption that Springs would require shocks and that would cost just as much as coilovers... thus making the car lowering process not as affordable as I wish! =)

Is there something special about teh G35 coupe that will allow springs to not need shocks? Or how the stock shocks work well? I'm curious cuz I've spoken to a few on this board and they seem to not have an issue w/ going w/o the upgraded shocks (remember checking out a thread here regarding the TEIN S.Techs that had some views on this)

Any insight would be great!

Thanks!

 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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Re: Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

aftermarket springs are not always compatible with the stock shocks. If that is the case, then it might damage the shocks. My friends RSX-S used H&R springs. It felt OK in the first time, but a year later. the car is just as bumpy as hell..
So, I think coilover would be the best. well, it's much more expensive than the springs, but it's worth the money.
I think, if you only care about the looks.. then lowering springs would be enough. but for comfort and performance wise.. coilover would be the best.


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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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Re: Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

The G front is a standard oem coil over shock design but the rear suspension has the shock mounted separately from the spring and outboard to the wheel hub while the rear spring has a separate tub seat in the lower arm.

Modern designs are going back to separate [nonitegrated]locations to reduce the replacement time for shocks.




 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Re: Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

After market springs [stiffer] are never compatable with stock shocks because the factory designs suspensions to be under damped*, not even critically damped --much less over damped.

* for ride quality you use softer shocks. The problem is if they are soft brand new they progressively get softer as the miles pile up. Dampening force is proportional to shaft velocity.
http://physics.ucsd.edu/neurophysics...3_overview.pdf
http://www.neohio-scca.org/comp_clin...handout%20.pdf
http://www.neohio-scca.org/comp_clin...ndout_2004.pdf

Unfortunately inexpensive oem style shocks don't have separate adjustments [no adjustments period] for velocity [low speed bumps vs. high speed bumps].

 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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Re: Reason Why COUPE allows springs w/o shocks?

I have done the springs and stock shocks, springs and aftermarket shocks, and coilovers on my previous car. And strangely enough more than once on the first two setups, and by far the best setup is the coilovers! It took a while to swallow the amount of cash I would be blowing on the H&R coilovers but it was by far the best bang for the buck I ever did for my other car. So... from experience I would recommend just biting the bullet and chargin up a nice set of coilovers.

 
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