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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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More HP at the crank means abolsutely NOTHING! Still is garbage end of story, i already posted up the test results of the Stillen supercharger stage 2 and the Greddy TT from "Speed R&T" and they got

Stillen: 0-60 5.1 and 1/4 mile 13.6
Greddy TT 0-60 5.3 1/4 mile 13.4

Not impressive to me at all, now if you go Vortech or with a major TT kit and its tuned right, you will be edging out M3's and can beat them, it will in no way murder them! Also my friend with his Sti with intake, exhaust, accutek chip from 14lbs of boost stock to 18 and Greddy BOV i beat him in My M last night by car and a half 2 till about 120, they are FAST but still need a considerable amount of stuff done to be ripping M3's, M5's and other cars!
To say HP at the crank means absolutely nothing is incorrect. I understand you are just being dramatic but nonetheless that is not true.

I am aware of the story you posted but I am also aware of the disparity between magazines and their various "times". Not to say Speed R&T is wrong but 10 other mags would probably get 10 other results, some worse and some better.

As for other FI, yes there have been much better results HP wise from other SC's and TT's but they also have all blown engines and offer no warranties. It's easy to say "just tune it right" but that is hardly peace of mind. Most people who have blown their engines thought they did tune it right. Stillen is not impressive power for the money but it is safe power and there is definitely something to be said for that!

I still can't defend that hood scoop though.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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I would recommend reading the forums on www.my350z.com. There's more discussion about FI as well as dynos and timeslips. Although they focus on the 350z, most of it applies to the G35 and times should be similar (although a bit slower due to the extra weight).
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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The times I've seen for the Stillen Project G35 Coupe (this includes supercharger with intercooler, high flow air box, cat back exhaust, suspensions upgrades, wheel and tire upgrades) is 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and a quarter mile of 13.6 seconds (as tested by Road and Track). Horsepower was rated at 400bhp.

As far as the Stillen Supercharger is concerned, there's a few things to note. First off, you'll need a new hood in order to create enough clearence and second you'll need a new front bumper if you want maximum efficieny with the intercooler. Also, the main difference with the Stage 3 is that it has a "high boost" pulley.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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yea a different pulley and no 3yr/36 thousand mile warenty on my engine.. also it is not carb aproved for some reason.. unless they got there information mixed up on the site

no answerd me yet.. Stillen stage 2.. 320ish rwhp around 420bhp.. 12.8?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinurgy
To say HP at the crank means absolutely nothing is incorrect. I understand you are just being dramatic but nonetheless that is not true.

I am aware of the story you posted but I am also aware of the disparity between magazines and their various "times". Not to say Speed R&T is wrong but 10 other mags would probably get 10 other results, some worse and some better.

As for other FI, yes there have been much better results HP wise from other SC's and TT's but they also have all blown engines and offer no warranties. It's easy to say "just tune it right" but that is hardly peace of mind. Most people who have blown their engines thought they did tune it right. Stillen is not impressive power for the money but it is safe power and there is definitely something to be said for that!

I still can't defend that hood scoop though.
I agree and what i was referring to was that people have a misconception of more hp means faster, that's not true! You can have a 300 WHP turbo civic and 500WHP viper and the civic will rip it!!!!! But anyway that's what Stillen got as just posted, i just saw one in person at the G35 meet today, sounded good and whatever but couldnt tell how fast it really was!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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http://www.dfwg35.com/
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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knock urself out
 
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:16 AM
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yoo dude shut upp and buy the car already......stop wastin yur time on the computer braggin how you jerk offf to ur dad.....go out n buy the car now
 
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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If you want to be faster than a M3, just lose 800 lb and get the typical bolt on.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by asianautica
If you want to be faster than a M3, just lose 800 lb and get the typical bolt on.
how could he loose 800lbs?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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how could he loose 800lbs?

on the subway diet of course
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBillMartin
how could he loose 800lbs?

Ia gree, that's nearly impossible on this car, even with any lightweight product ont he market for the car also
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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yea i know, my dad has the m3 just for fun.. the local bmw dealership the owner lives next door so he gave us an amazing deal.. my dads viper is a monster..

anyway i just want to run like a 12.8-12.9 sec quartermile useing a stage2 stillen.. just wonder if its possible.. if not what mods do i have to add on to the stillen to do that
You can always go with a Vortech SC. =) A stage 3 Stillen I saw only ran a 13.8 at LACR (high elevation track in SoCal) and I ran a 13.2 there...on street tires....just facts, no bragging! However, if Martin put half the money into his M3, he'd probably hand me my @$$ for unch....and dinner.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBillMartin
how could he loose 800lbs?
I was just being a little sarcastic. But he car start carbon fiber everything. Racing seats (our seats are pretty heavy), strip interior, super light weight wheels (1 unsprung lb ~= 4 sprung lb, so if he lose 50lb of unsprung weight, that's ~200lb already). That will get him near there and the cost will probably be similar to going F/I properly. This will probably still be alot more reliable too since you won't be messing with the engine too much.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by asianautica
That will get him near there and the cost will probably be similar to going F/I properly. This will probably still be alot more reliable too since you won't be messing with the engine too much.
i agree that it is more reliable to go lightweight but im not sure if he would see times similar to F/I if he stayed stock.
 
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