Seriously...

Scroll back up and see where this thread took a U turn.
This little b*tch came out of left field with out even reading my post and then starts talking all kinds of non sensical smack.

Stupid *** illiterate c*nt.

 

Whats the deal here. Im getting real close to pulling my CAI off (injen)
I was never that happy about the CAI. I do like the grounds. Both look good.

 

man this is a nice thread! Aren't we all G lovers? Can't we all get along?

Lets go over and pick on the stupid people posting about the new Lexus every 5 min!

 

Yeah I can't drive a stick..i teach school on driving manuals honey pie.

You trash my peanut all you want, if I thought I knew it all I wouldn't be here reading through all your BS to find some truth and light. Defending these wires is something I just need to give up.

I guess if this thread got derailed then I went to far. I suppose I get sick of all the hating on an effective 5AT modification bashed by a manual driver. It's bad information, and there is so much turdage floating around these board right now I need to stop worring about it.

 

THe stalling has been documented as an issue for some CAI's. Threads from 2 years ago started discussing this. THere is such a small chance that the wires are causing your problem, that I would wait and take the Injen off first and see how it goes.

 

Again, I hate getting involved in these heresy discussions, but Dizz is correct. Grounding wires do nothing but make your engine compartment look pretty. I remember when the <b>G35</b> Grounding Wire rage surfaced in early 2004. At that time, you had end-user claims of improved performance, better idling, and refined vehicle behavior. All of which is nonsense. Grounding wires belong in a place between eBay’s $9.00 +20hp Speed Chip and Tornado’s $69.95 13hp Fuel Saver. Hell, maybe even next to my Unichip!

 

Not to get this thread twisted, but I do notice an issue with my car giving me static discharges time to time. I was wondering if there's a grounding issue with my ride since it's a 5at. I dont rub up on my persian rug before I get in my G or wear butt huggin wool pants. Thought you guys might be able to chime in on this. Can a grounding kit help this issue b/c the last time I went to the dealer for a oil change, the station manager said it's something I have to deal with and the grounding kit would be a waste of money.

 

ya grounding wires aren't gonna help that static charge... cars can build up the static charge through driving and its usually distributed evenly over the surface of the car if it has a rounded surface... it all depends on the static charge in the air, I've found there's more static during the winter than summer...

as for this thread, everyone has their own opinion on these mods... a lot of people say intake mods are useless but people still use them... some people swear a night and day difference with groundingwires, others don't... IMO its more beneficial for 5AT then manual cars. I've got GroundingGear and it didn't blow me away with the change but there is a change. Is it worth it? i dunno...

and Dizz, you really need to calm down about the 5AT vs. 6MT thing... different people have different priorities... I grew up in a third world country where everything is manual, you know why? because autos are too expensive and only rich people have autos... I know you're just attacking sixfive but from all your other posts its no secret you're a 5AT hater for some reason...

and I agree with WRAH, can't we all just get along? lol seems like there's just so much animosity on these forums... and I recall reading somewhere that name calling isn't tolerated anymore lol but i guess that isn't enforced

 

Wow I love the passion heheheheh

As far as Grounding kits doing nothing, it just isn't true.
Now you are in my field of specialty, that is not to say you will feel some monsterous gain, you won't.

In a MT you will likely not FEEl anything, but there is a minor difference.
The AT the avantage is a lot more.

as to the 'AT drivers being losers' hheeh well whatever, my first 20 years of driving I wouldn't even look at an AT, but damn guys, doesn't mean I or others can't drive MT's it is a choice I made, based on my normal driving in my DAILY DRIVER.

If the G was my weekend car, I would have gone for MT, but living in SoCal.... driving an MT.... heheehh I don't think an AT is bad choice, particularly in this car with this tranny.

In any case stick to the facts.

 

Oh, by the way, the grounding wire "rage" started way earlier than 2004. If I remember correctly, it became hot in the import performance scene around 2000 when Turo and High Tech Performance (the magazine) did an article on them and showed dynos "proving" gains of 8 hp on a modified Civic.

Of course I put proving in quotes because magazine dynos are notorious for being wrong. On the other hand, I am a believer in grounding wires, as evidenced from my sig, but hey, to each his own. I think they do something, I believe my car idles much smoother and feels a tad bit stronger, I had the same experience when I put a set of grounding wires on my 300ZX TT. They definitely don't hurt, and are not causing any stalling problems.

Believe what you want, it doesn't make any difference to me, but I do suggest you do more research than just surfing an internet message board where people tend to get defensive.

Dave

 

gounrding gear might not give your any gains but if you have the 5at its really worth the money. after installing gords grounding gear, which is of supurb quality, it competely took away the dealy when shifting under the manumatic mode. but no hp gains.

 

guys, as far as HP gains, they would be minor... you also can not compare say a civic ground kit to a G or anything else. Any actual gains, would be very different between car type... i.e. how good or bad is the grounding and wiring to start with.

The dynos absolutely back up some small gain, but more importantly, just as everyone states the improved shifting in an AT. This is due to (in simple terms) more accurate and more responsive senor feedback. The same holds true in the Engine MT or AT, the sensor feedback will be 'quicker' if you will due to the grounding kit, so you gain a very slight responsiveness.

If you want to say "People are idiots for using grounding kits" then step on up.
Take a drive out to my place when I have a day to kill. i will strip mine off my car
and hook up a variety of equipment, take a some measrurements, and then put it back on and do the same thing.... All I would ask is that you then come back and
publicly whimper about how wrong you were, and how you really had no understanding of what's involved.

Seriously, I think a lot of folks expect some big *** in your face difference, that is just not what this is about.

 

After over a year of posting on this forum I've learned quite a bit.

Rule #1: Always ignore those who bad mouth you (even though I don't follow this rule, I've learned it.)

Rule #2: 5AT's are completely different animals than 6MT's. Grounding wires, according to many of my good friends in the FGC, DO WORK ON AUTOMATICS. They do NOT give any horsepower gains, but they "even out the rough idle" and "help with smoother, snappier gear shifts". I have a 6MT and see no scientific basis for this mod working, but sooo many people say they help, so I'm going with the flow.

Rule #3: ECU resets are VERY IMPORTANT on the 5AT's. They need the resets to "learn the mods" while the 6MT's do not need this step. (I came to realize this just today, THANK GOD!)

Also, I can't believe no one called BS on my fake, made up post above. It was supposed to be funny and I'm not sure if anyone found it humorous. Oh well, life goes on.

 

I didn't know MODs are allowed to joke! I mean they never say anything funny, so I thought it was a rule

 

So thats what happened.....

Should have grounded the car better!


Seriously though, I have one question. If the theory of the grounding wires is to eliminate voltage potential between different points of the car why do people use such big wire? The potential between all the different parts would be so insignificant (<0.25VDC I would guess) that 20ga wire would acomplish the same thing, at a fraction of the cost.