How much serious interest is there in a complete ECU replacement?
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How much serious interest is there in a complete ECU replacement?
I have a source that said they would consider it if there was a huge demand for it.
So report here if you are honestly interested in getting one if the results and price are fair.
Once I get a list, i'll send them a reply and see what they think.
The company is reputable with Subaru's and wanted to stick to Subaru's, but like I said, if there is a huge demand, they would seriously consider it.
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So report here if you are honestly interested in getting one if the results and price are fair.
Once I get a list, i'll send them a reply and see what they think.
The company is reputable with Subaru's and wanted to stick to Subaru's, but like I said, if there is a huge demand, they would seriously consider it.
Originally Posted by nis350ztt
Further specifying is required.
Laptop capability? User able to adjust settings on their own (from a list of pre-tuned maps, etc.)? Estimated price? What kind of gain could we see? What kind of time frame until this will be ready to sell?
[All members listed are of my350z unless specified from another forum]
KWIKZ (2005, track, 6 speed $899-999)
jcn30127 (2004 6mt, price expected=open, concerns/comments/questions=at least 2 maps available/switchable)
DayBlueZ (2004 5AT, $1,000 , will we be able to control it? or will it control us? will it have memory for different settings?)
zillinois (2003 6MT, $800-1,200 , depending on functionality)
kpiskin (2003 Touring 5AT, $400-500, want ECU automatically adjust to mods as they come (eg. plenum, pop charger, cats, exhaust etc.) without slowly losing power and requiring a reset of the ECU. I don't need any real level of control, but would want to take advantage of non-FI mods.)
Z BOY (2003 Performance, 6MT, $500-2,000 , at least 2 maps: 1 for daily driving, 1 for WOT/350CHP, ASAFP)
ZU L8R (2003 Touring/5AT/$800-$1,000)
nizmoz
subdriver [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price frame?, concerns are the same as kpiskins')
Does this look good so far?
Laptop capability? User able to adjust settings on their own (from a list of pre-tuned maps, etc.)? Estimated price? What kind of gain could we see? What kind of time frame until this will be ready to sell?
[All members listed are of my350z unless specified from another forum]
KWIKZ (2005, track, 6 speed $899-999)
jcn30127 (2004 6mt, price expected=open, concerns/comments/questions=at least 2 maps available/switchable)
DayBlueZ (2004 5AT, $1,000 , will we be able to control it? or will it control us? will it have memory for different settings?)
zillinois (2003 6MT, $800-1,200 , depending on functionality)
kpiskin (2003 Touring 5AT, $400-500, want ECU automatically adjust to mods as they come (eg. plenum, pop charger, cats, exhaust etc.) without slowly losing power and requiring a reset of the ECU. I don't need any real level of control, but would want to take advantage of non-FI mods.)
Z BOY (2003 Performance, 6MT, $500-2,000 , at least 2 maps: 1 for daily driving, 1 for WOT/350CHP, ASAFP)
ZU L8R (2003 Touring/5AT/$800-$1,000)
nizmoz
subdriver [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price frame?, concerns are the same as kpiskins')
Does this look good so far?
BTW...
DO NOT tell me to add your member name if you have already been added on 350ZMotoring or 350Z-Tech or my350z.
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
Further specifying is required.
Laptop capability? User able to adjust settings on their own (from a list of pre-tuned maps, etc.)? Estimated price? What kind of gain could we see? What kind of time frame until this will be ready to sell?
[All members listed are of my350z unless specified from another forum]
KWIKZ (2005, track, 6 speed $899-999)
jcn30127 (2004 6mt, price expected=open, concerns/comments/questions=at least 2 maps available/switchable)
DayBlueZ (2004 5AT, $1,000 , will we be able to control it? or will it control us? will it have memory for different settings?)
zillinois (2003 6MT, $800-1,200 , depending on functionality)
kpiskin (2003 Touring 5AT, $400-500, want ECU automatically adjust to mods as they come (eg. plenum, pop charger, cats, exhaust etc.) without slowly losing power and requiring a reset of the ECU. I don't need any real level of control, but would want to take advantage of non-FI mods.)
Z BOY (2003 Performance, 6MT, $500-2,000 , at least 2 maps: 1 for daily driving, 1 for WOT/350CHP, ASAFP)
ZU L8R (2003 Touring/5AT/$800-$1,000)
nizmoz
subdriver [350ZMotoring] (2003, 5AT, $1,000 max, concerns are the same as kpiskins')
syf0n (2003 6MT, $600-1200 , I'm very interested in this if, as you stated, it does a better job than what is already out there and doesn't qualify as highway robbery in the payment department. There are a lot of variables in regards to cost since the end product may or may not have a number of features, hence my price range being so broad. I am speaking of things like laptop compatibility/tunability, etc.)
Zexy
sabrefanpc [350ZMotoring] (2003 6MT, $1000, full fuel and timing control, multiple maps)
lowtempo [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price range?, Im interested asap. I would also be interested to beable to reflash or reprogram it back to stock if i had to put my stock peices back on for smog testing)
WHOZNXT [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, $1,000+ depending on results)
CAPTJ3 [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price range?, Would this ECU be able to work with a TT setup?How would they go about doing this map or maf based?)
Does this look good so far?
Laptop capability? User able to adjust settings on their own (from a list of pre-tuned maps, etc.)? Estimated price? What kind of gain could we see? What kind of time frame until this will be ready to sell?
[All members listed are of my350z unless specified from another forum]
KWIKZ (2005, track, 6 speed $899-999)
jcn30127 (2004 6mt, price expected=open, concerns/comments/questions=at least 2 maps available/switchable)
DayBlueZ (2004 5AT, $1,000 , will we be able to control it? or will it control us? will it have memory for different settings?)
zillinois (2003 6MT, $800-1,200 , depending on functionality)
kpiskin (2003 Touring 5AT, $400-500, want ECU automatically adjust to mods as they come (eg. plenum, pop charger, cats, exhaust etc.) without slowly losing power and requiring a reset of the ECU. I don't need any real level of control, but would want to take advantage of non-FI mods.)
Z BOY (2003 Performance, 6MT, $500-2,000 , at least 2 maps: 1 for daily driving, 1 for WOT/350CHP, ASAFP)
ZU L8R (2003 Touring/5AT/$800-$1,000)
nizmoz
subdriver [350ZMotoring] (2003, 5AT, $1,000 max, concerns are the same as kpiskins')
syf0n (2003 6MT, $600-1200 , I'm very interested in this if, as you stated, it does a better job than what is already out there and doesn't qualify as highway robbery in the payment department. There are a lot of variables in regards to cost since the end product may or may not have a number of features, hence my price range being so broad. I am speaking of things like laptop compatibility/tunability, etc.)
Zexy
sabrefanpc [350ZMotoring] (2003 6MT, $1000, full fuel and timing control, multiple maps)
lowtempo [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price range?, Im interested asap. I would also be interested to beable to reflash or reprogram it back to stock if i had to put my stock peices back on for smog testing)
WHOZNXT [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, $1,000+ depending on results)
CAPTJ3 [350ZMotoring] (year?, transmission?, price range?, Would this ECU be able to work with a TT setup?How would they go about doing this map or maf based?)
Does this look good so far?
BTW...
DO NOT tell me to add your member name if you have already been added on 350ZMotoring or 350Z-Tech or my350z.
Come on guys, I know some of you might have some questions/comments, let's hear 'em.
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If it was programmable, user friendly and actually works there'd be a ton of demand for it.
I think that the ECU is electronically linked to the keys though. I don't know if there is a practical way to overcome that problem.
You can put me on the interest list though.
I think that the ECU is electronically linked to the keys though. I don't know if there is a practical way to overcome that problem.
You can put me on the interest list though.
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Help me out here, what is the difference between TS' re-flash, and this "complete ECU replacement?" Plugging in a computer into this device is identical to the Unichip or Greddy for example. That is, this is the same methodology. None of these devices will produce more than 10hp at redline, period. These devices are best designed for F/I or where air/fuel mixtures have been affected by significant engine modifications. However, the G35 does not responds to these “piggy-back” or “replacement” produces. That is, some vehicles do exhibit a bit more performance but the G35 does not. As well, any perceived performance will be at redline. None of these devices “make” the vehicle faster. They simply allow slight modifications in the air/fuel mixtures via maps as well as provide secondary “tweaking” such as bumping up the rev limiter, etc. However, the vehicle will not create horsepower or torque. These produces simply modify or reorder the fixed performance parameters of the engine by means of map manipulation. Further, there is the issue of closed-loop. As aggressive as the air/fuel maps are, the engine will pull back timing anyway. At any rate, this product will never see the light of day if it is a penny over five hundred.
Originally Posted by Nis350ZTT
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BTW...
DO NOT tell me to add your member name if you have already been added on 350ZMotoring or 350Z-Tech or my350z.
Come on guys, I know some of you might have some questions/comments, let's hear 'em.
BTW...
DO NOT tell me to add your member name if you have already been added on 350ZMotoring or 350Z-Tech or my350z.
Come on guys, I know some of you might have some questions/comments, let's hear 'em.
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Originally Posted by realdieu
Help me out here, what is the difference between TS' re-flash, and this "complete ECU replacement?" Plugging in a computer into this device is identical to the Unichip or Greddy for example. That is, this is the same methodology. None of these devices will produce more than 10hp at redline, period. These devices are best designed for F/I or where air/fuel mixtures have been affected by significant engine modifications. However, the G35 does not responds to these “piggy-back” or “replacement” produces. That is, some vehicles do exhibit a bit more performance but the G35 does not. As well, any perceived performance will be at redline. None of these devices “make” the vehicle faster. They simply allow slight modifications in the air/fuel mixtures via maps as well as provide secondary “tweaking” such as bumping up the rev limiter, etc. However, the vehicle will not create horsepower or torque. These produces simply modify or reorder the fixed performance parameters of the engine by means of map manipulation. Further, there is the issue of closed-loop. As aggressive as the air/fuel maps are, the engine will pull back timing anyway. At any rate, this product will never see the light of day if it is a penny over five hundred.
Now, some of these people expecting this product to be under $1,000 are severly mistaken, because NONE of the standalones offered even go under $2,000. I think I can talk them into a $1,000-3,000 group buy price (later on, once it's been completed).
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Originally Posted by roneski
If it was programmable, user friendly and actually works there'd be a ton of demand for it.
I think that the ECU is electronically linked to the keys though. I don't know if there is a practical way to overcome that problem.
You can put me on the interest list though.
I think that the ECU is electronically linked to the keys though. I don't know if there is a practical way to overcome that problem.
You can put me on the interest list though.
roneski (year?, transmission?, price range?, concerns/comments/questions?)
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Mark me down as "interested". I've been following the ECU summary thread by Sentry on my350z.com's FI forum and I'm almost settled on just going the Vortec route on stock internals and being happy with 350-375rwhp.
HOWEVER... The idea of staying NA is appealing to me and I am very interested in seeing what develops. The true "magic" will be to see what Nissan left on the table when making our ECU. Just because you can control the 3 'big variables' doesn't necessarily mean that you can make more power safely. I wouldn't want to sign up to spend $1000-$2000 and find out there is a whoppin' 6-8rwhp extra (on top of cams, headers, plenum, cats, exhaust, etc...). Now throw out 20 more rwhp and all of a sudden you've got a lot more interested people.
A few questions... who would be able to "tune" this ECU for us? How close would they be to Orlando, FL? That's another big problem. Unichip doesn't even have an authorized 'tuner' in Florida, neither does TS.
That leaves a guy like me looking at staying with stock internals due to not being able to get the system tuned, which pushes me into a Vortec or staying NA... oh the dilemma...
HOWEVER... The idea of staying NA is appealing to me and I am very interested in seeing what develops. The true "magic" will be to see what Nissan left on the table when making our ECU. Just because you can control the 3 'big variables' doesn't necessarily mean that you can make more power safely. I wouldn't want to sign up to spend $1000-$2000 and find out there is a whoppin' 6-8rwhp extra (on top of cams, headers, plenum, cats, exhaust, etc...). Now throw out 20 more rwhp and all of a sudden you've got a lot more interested people.
A few questions... who would be able to "tune" this ECU for us? How close would they be to Orlando, FL? That's another big problem. Unichip doesn't even have an authorized 'tuner' in Florida, neither does TS.
That leaves a guy like me looking at staying with stock internals due to not being able to get the system tuned, which pushes me into a Vortec or staying NA... oh the dilemma...
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last i hear AEM was working on a "standalone" of sorts for the VQ. The EMS will plug into the ecu via a harness, so technically it wont be a full standalone, but it will have full standalone capabilities like all of their EMS'
it probably wont be out for a long time though
it probably wont be out for a long time though
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Originally Posted by Nis350ZTT
I'm not sure how that will work. Unichip and HKS don't even have an authorized tuner in the southesat.
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Originally Posted by Blackbird V35
last i hear AEM was working on a "standalone" of sorts for the VQ. The EMS will plug into the ecu via a harness, so technically it wont be a full standalone, but it will have full standalone capabilities like all of their EMS'
it probably wont be out for a long time though
it probably wont be out for a long time though
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Oh yeah, how rude of me... Welcome to driver... (a fellow 'former' moderator)
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Guys, if I don't get a response from the company on Monday, i'm going to have to call this thing off. I'm not sure if they weren't serious (even though they said they were) or if the customer rep. is trying to ask the owner of the company sometime. I have no idea, but I do know that they haven't replied after the first reply.
If anyone wants to take over this thing PM me and i'll tell you the company and give you the website.
Wait until Tuesday before you do that though.
If anyone wants to take over this thing PM me and i'll tell you the company and give you the website.
Wait until Tuesday before you do that though.
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